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Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems

24 messages,  Last post on Nov 23, 2009 at 11:08 PM

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What is this discussion about? Jaguar X-Type, Audio, Entertainment System, Navigation System, Security System, Sedan, Wagon


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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - UPDATE [bdimond] by pat HOST
Dec 05, 2008 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: bdimond (Dec 04, 2008 2:34 pm)

Actually, we recommend that people not post their email addresses to avoid exposing themselves to those with malicious intent (see note above the post box). Email addresses may be made public in profiles so that registered, logged-in users may see them, though.
 
Or better yet, further conversation could be had right here where lots of people will benefit now and in the future.
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - UPDATE [pat] by bdimond
Dec 05, 2008 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Dec 05, 2008 7:17 am)

I'm only asking so only so I can answer questions more expediently as I don't always log onto this group. The choice to do so (and risk associated with the choice) is theirs.
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - UPDATE [bdimond] by pat HOST
Dec 08, 2008 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: bdimond (Dec 05, 2008 1:43 pm)

Understood - some don't realize the risk, so that's why I suggested a couple of better alternatives.
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Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - FINAL UPDATE by bdimond
Dec 23, 2008 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: bdimond (Dec 04, 2008 2:34 pm)

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR'S FINAL UPDATE
 
My Navigation Control Unit was trashed. A new replacement was at a ridiculous price, with used units on Ebay very hard to find and still expensive. After reviewing wiring diagrams, I had replaced the all in one control screed with a dedicated digital climate control panel and hooked the two wiring harnesses from the remote Air Conditioning Control Module) (A/CCM), which is located in the front passengers (US) foot well, and connected then to the climate control panel which has a built in A/CCM.
 
I was able to get the blower output working but not the rear defrost, air temperature output, or air location output to change. I called the a Jaguar dealer in Columbus Ohio and told them what I had done, and asked for help and all they said is you can't retrofit a standard digital climate control panel in a car that has factory navigation, the wiring is different.
 
WRONG!
 
The solution to this problem was a different digital Climate control panel. The Climate control panel I had was for the electrically heated windscreen and was not compatible with my car. With the other unit (Used $50.00 US) I now have all climate functions!!!
 
In addition I did find a cheap Navigation Control Unit so I have the factory system working right now. But still looking to replace it when the weather improves.
 
So to recap: If you're looking to replace your factory all-in-one system, don't seek the advice of some ill informed dealer crony who doesn't know crap.
 
You CAN replace the all-in-one unit with just an after-market radio, wiring harness (for the radio), bezel and of course the RIGHT climate control unit which simply utilizes the two wiring harnesses that go into that go into the remote A/CCM located down by the passengers (US) foot well.
 
So instead of paying $4400 for a new unit, you can buy a NEW 7" double-din (GPS, Radio, DVD, MP3) player, a wiring harness from the jag to the radio (or you can just cut the jag plug off and wire in the radio harness directly) an x-type double-din bezel plate (to make it look like a factory install), and a used DIGITAL climate control panel.
 
The cost:
 
About $500 and you INCREASE the functionality over the factory GPS with DVD, MP3, and possible inputs for a backup camera. In addition the maps are more recent and more readily upgradeable.
 
And if you live need help, I'm an email away. And if you live in the Cleveland Ohio area drive to Lakewood and I'll even help you in person.
 
Merry Christmas!!!
 
Bob Dimond
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Thank you by brokedownkitty
Dec 23, 2008 (9:30 am)
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I will have to try doing it this way... Thank you for posting this information. I am in Columbus, OH, so I may take you up on that!
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - FINAL UPDATE [bdimond] by ray699
Jan 02, 2009 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: bdimond (Dec 23, 2008 9:11 am)

Any chance you can give some info on what you specifically purchased and source? I have a 2004 x-type 3.0 with factory nav that I would like to upgrade. I do have an electronics background but am concerned about messing up the dash.
 
Thanks!
Ray
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - FINAL UPDATE [ray699] by brokedownkitty
Jan 02, 2009 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: ray699 (Jan 02, 2009 2:27 pm)

I'd like to know the specifics also! We can't get through the winter with a baby and no reliable heat source! We also can't afford to unload the car either... If we could have more information about the climate controls, and then the after market nav system and the factory install "type" panels I think we know enough people to get the job done.
Thanks again to all the bloggers who post their problems to help everyone out.
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - FINAL UPDATE [brokedownkitty] by ladyd1
Jan 13, 2009 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: brokedownkitty (Jan 02, 2009 7:56 pm)

Has anyone found out where we can get a reasonably priced digital climate control panel? I have searched everywhere to no avail.
 
Much appreciation.
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If we are all in the same boat, how many others? by brokedownkitty
Jan 13, 2009 (7:22 pm)
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Just curious if there is anyone out there who's contacted Jaguar manufacturing to file a complaint, or discuss a recall? I've seen many others on message boards. It seems like a pretty big deal- that all give the same error message. It seems convenient to happen without reason to so many systems. I haven't done this, but was wondering if any had information on doing so.
Thanks.
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - FINAL UPDATE [ladyd1] by bdimond
Jan 13, 2009 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: ladyd1 (Jan 13, 2009 7:08 pm)

eBay is your best bet, just like I had indicated in my final update.

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