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#14 of 24 Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - FINAL UPDATE [ray699] by brokedownkitty Jan 02, 2009 (7:56 pm)
Replying to: ray699 (Jan 02, 2009 2:27 pm) I'd like to know the specifics also! We can't get through the winter with a baby and no reliable heat source! We also can't afford to unload the car either... If we could have more information about the climate controls, and then the after market nav system and the factory install "type" panels I think we know enough people to get the job done. Thanks again to all the bloggers who post their problems to help everyone out. Replies to this message: ladyd1 (Jan 13, 2009 7:08 pm) bdimond (Jan 13, 2009 7:36 pm)
#15 of 24 Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - FINAL UPDATE [brokedownkitty] by ladyd1 Jan 13, 2009 (7:08 pm)
Replying to: brokedownkitty (Jan 02, 2009 7:56 pm) Has anyone found out where we can get a reasonably priced digital climate control panel? I have searched everywhere to no avail.   Much appreciation. Replies to this message: bdimond (Jan 13, 2009 7:36 pm)
#16 of 24 If we are all in the same boat, how many others? by brokedownkitty Jan 13, 2009 (7:22 pm)
Just curious if there is anyone out there who's contacted Jaguar manufacturing to file a complaint, or discuss a recall? I've seen many others on message boards. It seems like a pretty big deal- that all give the same error message. It seems convenient to happen without reason to so many systems. I haven't done this, but was wondering if any had information on doing so. Thanks.
#17 of 24 Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - FINAL UPDATE [ladyd1] by bdimond Jan 13, 2009 (7:36 pm)
Replying to: ladyd1 (Jan 13, 2009 7:08 pm) eBay is your best bet, just like I had indicated in my final update.
#18 of 24 by brokedownkitty Jan 14, 2009 (6:05 am)
I am not sure what on Ebay I should be searching for. Is it the Nav Control? Or a digital climate control- are both specific for Jaguar and year/ model? What I was curious about was the specific control module for the cliamate and the after market nav/cd etc system that you installed. If it isn't to much to ask, could I get the information on the specific pieces you used? Thanks. Replies to this message: bdimond (Jan 14, 2009 3:30 pm)
#19 of 24 Re: [brokedownkitty] by bdimond Jan 14, 2009 (3:30 pm)
Replying to: brokedownkitty (Jan 14, 2009 6:05 am) First of all if you read my final update carefully you will note that I DID NOT replace my factory navigation system with a dedicated climate control unit and aftermarket radio/gps system. As stated, I had found a naviation control unit on e-bay (search on Jaguar Navigation in ebay motors) and got my factory system working. Obviously if your not willing to tear into your car and experiment, this is clearly the way to go. They pop up on e-bay at a good price (under $500) from time to time so be patient.   IF YOUR WILLING TO SPEND SOME MONEY THROUGH TRAIL AND ERROR AND TEAR INTO YOUR CAR:   The non-Navigation X-types have two units that occupy the same space as the console and radio. The complete assembly has two LCD screens. The top screen, just below your hazzard switch, is the climate control panel.   If you find the right climate control unit (MUST be digital and must match the windscreen option of your car so I cannot tell anyone specifically what they need) IT WILL WORK IN PLACE OF THE CENTER AND TRUNK NAVIGATION PIECES FOR MY CAR. Once again I have detailed this process in my "UPDATE" and "FINAL UPDATE" posts so I WILL NOT waste my time and reiterate it here.   As for what parts to obtain to convert from the factory navigation system:   Do a search on ebay category "all of e-bay motors" for the words "x-type" and "climate" then select "car & truck parts and accessories" for the climate control unit. 9 hits (2 auction 7 e-bay store). I reccommend ebay items sold by LKQONLINE as they tend to supply information like VIN number series and option list.   Do a search on e-bay category "all of ebay motors" for the words "double din" , "GPS" "SD" and "DVD" The select "Car Audio & Electronics" This should return dozens of hits for a 6-7" screen unit that will fit in the jag. Select the location and featres you want. READ THE FINE PRINT to make sure the unit has a GPS included versus things like "GPS ready" which means a separate GPS unit (usually not included) can be added on. One unit that could serve as a factry GPS replacement (if you want to Narrow it down to a name brand you can see at best buy) woud be a Pioneer AVIC-900BT.   Lok here for the fascia plate so it looks like a factory installation:   http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_13402_Metra+99-9500.html#   Then you need to the x-type plug off and wire in your new radio wiring harness or purchase an adapter:   http://www.dynamicsounds.co.uk/jaguar-xtype-wiring-adaptor-autoleads-pc2814-p-26- 84.html   NOTE: This is as specific as I can get. The radio harness should be standard accross all models, but the climate control wiring harness *MAY* differ between year to year and vehicle feature set. For example, I purchased a dedicated climate control unit that did not work (excet for the blower controls, this was mentioned in my update). The reason? The unit and wiring harness were not compatible. The unit I purchased was for a x-type with a heated windshield (windscreen). When I purchased a non-heated windsheild unit, EVERYTHING WORKED. So you see, I can't answer the specifics BECAUSE I DON'T OWN YOUR CAR. Check with your dealer for your car's options, and read the ebay descriptions for VIN series and options the climate control unit supports. Check wiring diagrams. I was able figure out how to fit a dedicated climate control unit into my naviagion equiped x-type because I was willing to invest A LOT of my time scouring the internet and LOOSE a little money to succeed. There are no surefire easy "cookbok" instructions. Even the Cleveland or Columbus Jaguar dealership "experts" did not think what I accomplished could be done.   If my Nav system bites the dust again, I will replace it with an aftermarket unit and I will photograph a detailed procedure and post.   Short of another nav system failure, what I can do get your email address. From there I will email my number and we can discuss your options over the phone. If anyone lives in my area (Lakewood, Ohio) they can make arrangements to come to me, and I will show them the components and how to migrate from the NAV system climate control to a dedicated unit. Weather permitting I will even see if one of the two climate control units I have purchased will work with your car.   This is all I can do, so please don't ask for more "details".   Bob
#20 of 24 MuchAppreciated by brokedownkitty Jan 14, 2009 (7:08 pm)
Thanks for your posts. Sorry, I think I misunderstood some of them... It at the very least provides us with hope in our situation. I will follow your advice, as $4000 isn't an option for our family. At this point, we don't have much to lose.   I am in columbus, my email is sarahcgayloryahoo.com. Thanks again. Replies to this message: pimpinnpolo (Jan 17, 2009 1:38 pm) the_mike (Aug 12, 2009 5:34 am)
#21 of 24 Re: nav system [brokedownkitty] by pimpinnpolo Jan 17, 2009 (1:38 pm)
Replying to: brokedownkitty (Jan 14, 2009 7:08 pm) i have a 2004 xtype-3.0 all was well, untill my 7in NAV touchscreen went blank, im not sure what the problem is. i have basic controls of the radio and thats it. the climate is on some kind of default defrost mode. I am also getting the error code C1 51 50 flashing where the temp normally is. I think it might be the denso dvd head unit in the trunk. The unit wont eject or accept a disc, which makes me think that it's not getting power ,or a fuse is blown. If it is a power supply issue does anyone know where i should look to fix the problem. I also dont want to spend thousands fixing something that seems so simple. Does anyone have this problem or a way to fix it ITS KILLING ME! Replies to this message: the_mike (Aug 12, 2009 5:34 am)
#22 of 24 Re: nav system [pimpinnpolo] by the_mike Aug 12, 2009 (5:34 am)
Replying to: pimpinnpolo (Jan 17, 2009 1:38 pm) I actually had the same thing happen to me that many people have talked about. Checked every fuse, every connection, would wait a month, check them again, etc. Could not believe something went out on my car. So I took it to the jag dealership, DVD unit in the back went out.   I checked for them on ebay religiously. Never found one that I could afford to get, just to get it back to where it was, when I wanted something better anyway. When I found this thread, I thought, no way that could work. Did some more research, and finally bit the bullet and ordred this off of ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190319526050&viewi- tem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT   I do have an 02, but it works, and works great. As the original author posted, you have to disconnect the plugs from the passenger footwell and pull those up to where the climate control mounts.   The installation was easy, then again I have done numerous car stereo installations, and honestly, it was along the same lines, but easier.   The bad part, I HAVE to get an aftermarker stereo. The touch screen is seperate, you will still have the same functionality from your stereo as you did with the dead touch screen, but now there is a hole in my dash.   At this point, I don't care, it works and I can drive around today in 97 degree heat and use my A/C.   I will now open up the floor to questions...
#23 of 24 Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - FINAL UPDATE [bdimond] by kappa1 Nov 20, 2009 (8:07 am)
Replying to: bdimond (Dec 23, 2008 9:11 am) Hello Bob,   I realize this reply is almost a year after your post, but I am hoping you will find it and be able to help. I live near the Cleveland area and have been experiencing the same issues with my Navigation screen going blank and the climate control being unavailable. I tried doing a hard reset by disconnecting the battery but that did not work. I have an appointment with the dealer in about a week and am anticipating them telling me I need to replace the module at an astronomical cost.   please send me an email at Jag02X(at)yahoo(dot)com if you are willing to offer some assistance. Thanks in advance.

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