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Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems by bdimond
Jul 30, 2008 (1:03 pm)
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Hi,
 
I have a 2002 Jaguar X-TYPE with the Denso Navigation System. Earlier in the year the system stopped reading the Navigation disc that came with the car giving the Error "This is not a MAP DVD"
 
In an effort to get the Navigation portion working for a business trip, I performed a disc copy of the original to a DVD+RW disc. The system still didn't work. That's when I did a stupid thing...
 
I inputted the diagnostic code into the head unit and tried to do a software update from the original disc. It attempted the update but erred saying it couldn't find the firmware file.
 
Since then the screed is completely dead. The air climate control is in some sort of default mode defogging the windshield. The LCD status window below the screen flashes "C" the "50" then "51".
 
I have tried swapping out the Nav/Audio/Climate screen assembly in the cabin AND left the positive lead off the car overnight. To my surprise neither action worked.
 
Here are my questions:
 
1. Where is the physical location of the firmware for this system is it in the display unit or in the trunk?
 
2. Is there a diagnostic sequence to turn on or unlock the navigation system.
 
3. What are the tried solutions (and their associated costs) to this
problem?
 
My thanks to you in advance.
 
Bob
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems [bdimond] by redarmy
Aug 26, 2008 (2:35 am)
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Replying to: bdimond (Jul 30, 2008 1:03 pm)

Hello Bob
 
I have the same problem as you, did you manage to resolve this issue.
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems [bdimond] by kmw70
Oct 29, 2008 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: bdimond (Jul 30, 2008 1:03 pm)

Did you ever figure this one out? I am having the same problem however, my DVD will not eject. And the defroster are on full blast with no way to adjust.
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems [bdimond] by brokedownkitty
Dec 04, 2008 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: bdimond (Jul 30, 2008 1:03 pm)

Hello, while I didn't get too much of the disc read error message, out of the blue my nav stopped working, blasts defrost, and displays same error codes.. Wondering if any advancements were made to fixing the issue. Mine has been broken for over a year now, just don't drive it when it's too hot or too cold!
I've been told to replace the NAV control module head unit located in the trunk compartment on the left above the disc changer... haven't found any after party manufacturer to sell this piece other then dealership for $4000. The car is hardly worth that. I wouldn't care if I could figure out a way to control the cliamate controls with out the nav unit... Please let me know if any developments made!
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Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - UPDATE by bdimond
Dec 04, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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Well so far not much happening with this. Sorry I haven't responded to the forum inquiries.
 
So far, I can tell that the climate control unit goes into a default mode (air on when hot outside heater on when cold outside) vented out the defrost ports, so it has been usable. From a system standpoint I an relatively certain my trunk unit problem lies in the DVD-ROM drive. But I am not sure how to address the issue.
 
I am opting to throw away this system, and replace it with a double din 7" navigation stereo that has AM/FM/DVD/SD/MP3 capabilities coupled with a dedicated digital climate control panel (you have to use a digital one).
 
I have installed the panel this past weekend, by mounting it in the navigation system frame and connecting the two cables from the ACU, located in the passenger's footwell area. I get heartbeat it displays outside and thrermostat setting temperatures. The blower unit can be controlled, and I can turn from all heat to all air. Unfortunately I cannot change the heat output (its either hottest or coldest depending on temperature setting), nor can I enable the rear defroster, or change where the air blows (although the LCD indicates what I select). I will continue to work the problem in my spare time then post with a resolution.
 
In the interim if anyone has questions, please put an email address in the post so when it is forwarded I may contact you directly.
 
Bob Dimond
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems [brokedownkitty] by kmw70
Dec 04, 2008 (2:41 pm)
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Replying to: brokedownkitty (Dec 04, 2008 10:00 am)

Hi, I took mine to the dealer and they said they plugged in a Navigation Module and it worked fine. The cost - $4400. I can't pay that, not worth it. So I have been online searching salvage yards for the last 3 months or so. I found one (that was the right one) and they wanted $895 for it. So I said OK. Well, after a week and a half, no Module. I called them up and they said the one they have has a broken screen. I had other yards say they have it for $650, however I would ask for a picture to insure I am getting the right part and they come back and tell me it isn't the Module with the Nav in it.
 
Did the Dealer tell you that it is the unit in the truck? The Dealer didn't say (Navigation Control Module) but I assumed it was the unit in the dash. However, I have no power at the unit in the truck. Now I am second guessing.
 
I agree, if I only could get the climate control to work I would be happy. I will keep you posted on any new development.
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems [kmw70] by brokedownkitty
Dec 05, 2008 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: kmw70 (Dec 04, 2008 2:41 pm)

Yes, the controle module is in the trunk- the part that holds the DVD drive is what controls. This was told to me by a service tech- reliable, unsure?- I did not have them look at it, I just called in and tried to get information.
I too researched salvage parts, I have found Ebay sometimes works- right now (which sparked my most recent searches) there is a nav module and screen set up for $1400 on Ebay for the x type... It may be an option. $1400 is a lot of cash though when the car values are plummitting.
How much was the third party system in previous post? That seems like an alternative.
It's hard to put money in. We hardly ever drive the it, we have another primary vehicle (a nissan- I highly recommend =)) and myhusband has a company car. I'd like to unload, but no one will buy for reasonable price. I'm not sure what to do...
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - UPDATE [bdimond] by pat HOST
Dec 05, 2008 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: bdimond (Dec 04, 2008 2:34 pm)

Actually, we recommend that people not post their email addresses to avoid exposing themselves to those with malicious intent (see note above the post box). Email addresses may be made public in profiles so that registered, logged-in users may see them, though.
 
Or better yet, further conversation could be had right here where lots of people will benefit now and in the future.
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - UPDATE [pat] by bdimond
Dec 05, 2008 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Dec 05, 2008 7:17 am)

I'm only asking so only so I can answer questions more expediently as I don't always log onto this group. The choice to do so (and risk associated with the choice) is theirs.
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Re: Jaguar - Denso Navigation System Problems - UPDATE [bdimond] by pat HOST
Dec 08, 2008 (5:37 am)
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Replying to: bdimond (Dec 05, 2008 1:43 pm)

Understood - some don't realize the risk, so that's why I suggested a couple of better alternatives.

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