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Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD?

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Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? by jonathann
Jul 27, 2008 (3:06 pm)
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2007 AWD w/35,000mi. One ruined tire. New tire tread depth 10/32. Existing tires have 6/32 tread depth. Can I replace only one tire or will this adversely affect (wreck) the AWD components?
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [jonathann] by tidester HOST
Jul 27, 2008 (11:47 pm)
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Replying to: jonathann (Jul 27, 2008 3:06 pm)

You may also want to give Got a Quick, Technical Question? a try.
 
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [tidester] by jonathann
Jul 29, 2008 (4:42 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Jul 27, 2008 11:47 pm)

tidester:
 
Thanks for the suggestion.
 
I checked archives in that discussion and did not find anything, but I will post there and try my luck.
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [tidester] by jonathann
Aug 02, 2008 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Jul 27, 2008 11:47 pm)

I have managed to get some information, but would still appreciate additional information on the most recent Hyundai AWD system.
 
Audi says the tire tread depth must be within 4/32" of each other. I meet this restriction.
 
Porsche Cayenne requires the tire tread to be within 30% of each other on same axle I would be over that limit at 40%.
 
Subaru has a system that sends power to all wheels all of the time and requires not more than 1/4" difference in the circumference of any of the 4 tires. This translates to no more than 1.25/32" of an inch difference in tread depth. I don't see how anyone meets this strict a tolerance with 4 matched tires over their lifetime.
 
If I understand correctly, the Hyundai electronic AWD system runs in FWD until slippage is detected in the front wheels. That would not occur at this time of year. I have placed the new tire on the rear axle which is freewheeling.
 
The new tire has 4/32" more tread depth than the existing. That results in about 3/4" difference in the tire circumference, so the new tire will rotate about 6 times less than the existing over a mile. I think there must be at least that much variation in rotation of 4 identical tires over a mile of cornering.
 
Given all of this, I am hoping for the best.
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [jonathann] by somedai1
Aug 03, 2008 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: jonathann (Aug 02, 2008 6:17 am)

to be safe i would say no - you should replace all 4 together but only if the tires are worn to the point where the new tire would be 2/32 or more in difference than the old ones. if it were a true 4wd the jeopardy may be less because tolerances are built in on those systems (and i would still be reluctant to just do one tire). all wheel drive is different and having one tire with a different diameter could not only cause damage but create a safety issue - the wheels will be spinning at slightly different speeds. you should also use the same brand because different brands even though they are being sold as the same size are slightly different in diameter. imagine the computer trying to figure out why one tire is trying to spin slower or faster than the other 3.... then trying to compensate... there will be a problem even if you don't feel it...
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [jonathann] by rick2456
Oct 23, 2008 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: jonathann (Jul 27, 2008 3:06 pm)

Don't worry about it. The only difference you might see is in the braking (the new tire will have more traction) and the traction control system should adjust for that minute difference.
 
I for one, would just go ahead and replace all 4 tires, as you will otherwise, always have one tire with a different level of wear from the other 3. Or at the very least, get 2 new tires to keep the wear level constant on the same axle.
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [rick2456] by jcwsbltd
Oct 23, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: rick2456 (Oct 23, 2008 5:13 am)

All this begs the question : how come only one tire has excessive wear? It could be an alignment problem, bad tire, or out of true. Was the wear on one edge or evenly all over the face of the tread? Were they ever rotated?
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [jcwsbltd] by somedai1
Oct 23, 2008 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: jcwsbltd (Oct 23, 2008 7:32 am)

i was under the impression it was a case of a blown tire - after there was wear on all tires - now you need to replace the one blown tire with a brand new one - everyone wants to know if you need to change all 4 when only one is bad. It's an expensive deal but to preserve the mechanics of the awd system I would say you need to change them all IF the difference beteween the tires would be more than 2/32 - otherwise the other tires are fairly new and you can freely put on the one new tire.... BUT don't mix brands of tires on an awd...
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [somedai1] by jonathann
Apr 23, 2009 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: somedai1 (Oct 23, 2008 7:44 pm)

Update: I did replace just the one tire, which had a puncture in the sidewall (steel rod) and therefore could not be plugged. The ruined tire was replaced with a new Bridgestone Dueller 235-60-18 to match the originals. That was at 35,000 miles.
 
Now, at 55,000 miles, the balance of the original tires are ready to be replaced. I think 55,000 miles is reasonable for new car stock tire life.
 
No adverse affect to the AWD drive train has been experienced.
  
I have been happy with the performance and service life of the original tires, so I will now install 4 new Bridgestone Dueller tires.
 
I am very happy to have deferred the 4 tire replacement for 20,000 miles for the cost of 1 new tire.
 
Thanks for your interest and advise.
 
Regards,
 
Jonathan
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [jonathann] by somedai1
Apr 24, 2009 (3:26 am)
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Replying to: jonathann (Apr 23, 2009 2:35 pm)

Don't think you would notice anything right away unless the difference between tires was very drastic. However just like you wouldn't consistently run your engine 1qt short of oil even though you probably wouldn't notice anything adverse- I wouldn't make it a practice to have tires of different diameters on the awd vehicle. Undue wear and tear would precede a catastrophic breakdown. Some cars can take a lot of abuse before they let you know something that should not have been done was done. Hopefully it none the worse for wear.

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