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Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD?

18 messages,  Last post on May 04, 2009 at 2:26 PM

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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [somedai1] by jonathann
Apr 23, 2009 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: somedai1 (Oct 23, 2008 7:44 pm)

Update: I did replace just the one tire, which had a puncture in the sidewall (steel rod) and therefore could not be plugged. The ruined tire was replaced with a new Bridgestone Dueller 235-60-18 to match the originals. That was at 35,000 miles.
 
Now, at 55,000 miles, the balance of the original tires are ready to be replaced. I think 55,000 miles is reasonable for new car stock tire life.
 
No adverse affect to the AWD drive train has been experienced.
  
I have been happy with the performance and service life of the original tires, so I will now install 4 new Bridgestone Dueller tires.
 
I am very happy to have deferred the 4 tire replacement for 20,000 miles for the cost of 1 new tire.
 
Thanks for your interest and advise.
 
Regards,
 
Jonathan
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [jonathann] by somedai1
Apr 24, 2009 (3:26 am)
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Replying to: jonathann (Apr 23, 2009 2:35 pm)

Don't think you would notice anything right away unless the difference between tires was very drastic. However just like you wouldn't consistently run your engine 1qt short of oil even though you probably wouldn't notice anything adverse- I wouldn't make it a practice to have tires of different diameters on the awd vehicle. Undue wear and tear would precede a catastrophic breakdown. Some cars can take a lot of abuse before they let you know something that should not have been done was done. Hopefully it none the worse for wear.
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [somedai1] by jonathann
Apr 24, 2009 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: somedai1 (Apr 24, 2009 3:26 am)

somedai1:
 
Thanks for the additional information.
 
From the research I did, if this was a Subaru I would have replaced all 4 tires because they specify no greater than 2/32" difference in tread depth.
   
However, Hyundai and other manufacturers have different AWD systems and less stringent, or no, information.
 
Since Hyundai provides no guidance (or warnings), I decided to replace only 1 tire to take advantage of the remaining life of the other three tires to save $$.
 
However, here are the cost calculations for the two different scenarios:
 
1. What I did: Replace 1 tire at 35,000 miles $200, then replace all tires at 55,000 mi $800, which I now know will have to be replaced again at 110,000 miles. Total cost of $1,000 for 110,000 miles.
 
2. Replace all 4 tires at 35,000 miles $800. Based on the now known 55,000 miles lifespan, these would be replaced again at 90,000 miles. To get to 110,000 miles so we can compare apples with apples, the cost of the additional 20,000 miles would be $800/55,000 x20,000 = $290. So the total cost to 110,000 miles in this case is $1090.
 
I think you are right.
 
If I had known then that my insurance premium to insure that I would not have a problem with the AWD system was the $90 difference, I think I would have paid it happily and replaced all 4 tires.
 
Hopefully, I have saved $90 with no ill effects, but who knows?
 
If I had known then what I know now, I probably would not be the person I am now.
 
Thanks again.
 
Regards,
 
Jonathan
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [jonathann] by somedai1
Apr 24, 2009 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: jonathann (Apr 24, 2009 4:28 pm)

GOSH! $200 per tire?! do some research there to find a better tire than OEM and save some money! tirerack.com is the best - over the years i try to look elsewhere but they always have the best deals and you can compare them to the OEM to see what is better/worse...
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [jonathann] by steve_ HOST
Apr 24, 2009 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: jonathann (Apr 24, 2009 4:28 pm)

If you are concerned about the difference in tread depth, you can get the new tire shaved to more closely match the other three tires. Since I have a Subaru, that's probably what I would do if I ruined a tire and still had plenty of life left in the other tires.
 
Tire Rack shaves tires if your local shop can't do it.
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [steve_] by somedai1
Apr 24, 2009 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 24, 2009 8:00 pm)

WOW! I did NOT know that... tirerack is the BEST!
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [somedai1] by steve_ HOST
Apr 24, 2009 (9:20 pm)
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Replying to: somedai1 (Apr 24, 2009 8:28 pm)

Yeah, their original intent was to shave tires for competition use, but they'll do it for SUVs too. Tire Rack
 
There's a good FAQ at that link about matching tires on 4WD/AWD vehicles.
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [somedai1] by jonathann
Apr 25, 2009 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: somedai1 (Apr 24, 2009 7:40 pm)

I live in Brockville, Ontario, Canada and we do not have access to Tire Rack in Canada. We also have fewer manufacturer and model choices in the 235-60-18 size.
 
Driving to Watertown New York to buy a set of 4 tires seems attractive at first. However, when you calculate the 22% difference between the Canadian and US dollar, I would have to find a tire at $164 installed, balanced and including taxes to equal the $200 Canadian price here.
 
Once you add the cost (time and money) of the trip to Watertown crossing the boarder twice, and lying at the boarder on the return trip when asked "did you purchase or receive anything in the United States" (I don't know what the duty is on tires purchased in the States but I believe there is one), and the loss of any warranty, it just seems simpler to buy locally.
 
The article on the Tire Rack site about replacing tires on 4WD/AWD was very useful.
 
Thanks everyone.
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Re: Can I put 1 new tire on Santa Fe AWD? [jonathann] by somedai1
Apr 26, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: jonathann (Apr 25, 2009 10:33 am)

oops! didn't know you were in Canada... well - at least go with a tire that has a better rating than the OEM bridgestones - and changing the size may offer a less expensive tire... tirerack is good for research - then you can find what you need up north...
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Tire size by mikebutkus
May 04, 2009 (2:26 pm)
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Some places will "trim" your tires. Basically cut off the tread.
Or, find out what rear wheel spins easiest.. install tire and smoke them a few times !
These newer AWD aren't like the old Jeep 4WD systems. There is lots of give.
I would put any single newer tire up front. More give up there as there is a 40/60 transfer. Or is it the other way around ? ?

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