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The End of Leasing? And do you care?

95 messages,  Last post on Sep 03, 2008 at 4:58 PM

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Re: BMW [qbrozen] by nippononly
Aug 06, 2008 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Aug 06, 2008 12:20 pm)

But for purchasing, dealers can also play big games with the term of the financing. Which costs more per month, the Infiniti over 60 months, or the BMW over 84 months? It may still be the BMW, but they will be much closer. Then, if BMW decides to plunk down a 1.9 financing rate for 84-month loans on new BMWs, and Infiniti has no promo on their car, you may see the Infiniti's payment exceed that of the BMW.
 
Dealers and automakers are full of games...
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Re: BMW [nippononly] by corvette
Aug 06, 2008 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 06, 2008 11:17 am)

I know that asking prices aren't always indicative of selling prices, but the "asking" prices on off-lease high-end vehicles are still high enough to turn me off.
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Re: BMW [corvette] by nippononly
Aug 06, 2008 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: corvette (Aug 06, 2008 12:28 pm)

Me too, especially considering my presumption that leased cars receive little if any care along the way.
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Re: BMW [nippononly] by qbrozen
Aug 06, 2008 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 06, 2008 12:27 pm)

Dealers and automakers are full of games...
 
Ohhh... they are full of somethin' alright.
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Re: BMW [nippononly] by ponytrekker
Aug 06, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 06, 2008 12:27 pm)

>>Which costs more per month, the Infiniti over 60 months, or the BMW over 84 months?
 
There's no way I finance a BMW (or any other car) over 84 months. Then it'll be time to look at the used Honda Civic market.
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Re: BMW [ponytrekker] by explorerx4
Aug 06, 2008 (3:06 pm)
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Replying to: ponytrekker (Aug 06, 2008 1:53 pm)

the way used car values are dropping, other than the small fuel efficient ones that don't cost that much to begin with, those long loans don't make much sense.
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Re: BMW [ponytrekker] by nippononly
Aug 06, 2008 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: ponytrekker (Aug 06, 2008 1:53 pm)

Right now, the used Civic market isn't much different than the new Civic market: prices and availability are about the same.
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Leasing ends? by kyfdx HOST
Sep 02, 2008 (8:29 am)
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If the car companies are getting out of leasing, because the cars are worth less than the residuals, then that is a pretty good indicator that the lease deals were better for the consumers than they were for the car dealers..
 
If your leased car is worth $3000 less than the residual at lease end, then you've saved $3000 over your lease term vs. financing..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Leasing ends? [kyfdx] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 02, 2008 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Sep 02, 2008 8:29 am)

Well sure, that would definitely hold true for those car companies who set such high residuals in order to grab more market share.
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Re: Leasing ends? [Mr_Shiftright] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 02, 2008 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 02, 2008 8:38 am)

It's not just those companies... It's also the ones that sell monster SUVs, that didn't realize gas was going up to $4.00/gallon... (of course, almost no one realized that.. at least not that quickly.. ).
 
The point being.... When you lease, you are locking in your depreciation on the down-side.. Many, many people found that they are thousands of dollars ahead of someone that bought a big truck or SUV, and now needs to sell.
 
I don't mean to imply that leasing is for everyone, or even most people... Sometimes, even if a lease works for you, generally, you can't lease a specific car because that lease program is poor. On some cars, you are leaving thousands on the table, if you don't lease..
 
Also, tax deductibiliity implications rarely make a difference (rarely, not always). Even purchasers can deduct automobile costs, if eligible.. It isn't leasing, or not, that determines that..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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