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The End of Leasing? And do you care?

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The End of Leasing? And do you care? by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 25, 2008 (4:49 pm)
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Chrysler's announcement about the cessation of leasing might prompt other automakers to do the same. Does this affect you adversely or is it maybe a good thing long overdue?
 
Read more here:
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080725/ap_on_bi_ge/chrysler_leasing
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Re: The End of Leasing? And do you care? [Mr_Shiftright] by boaz47
Jul 25, 2008 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 25, 2008 4:49 pm)

I have only ever leased one car and I think it was the dumbest move I ever made. They restrict your mileage and, in our state, you pay about as high for your insurance as you can. You are restricted against customizing your vehicle and the lease can be hard to get out of.
 
Did that sound bitter? I know but that is my two cents. Leasing just don't do anything for me.
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Re: The End of Leasing? And do you care? [Mr_Shiftright] by 1stpik
Jul 25, 2008 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 25, 2008 4:49 pm)

Yeah, car leases and sub-prime mortgages: two things we'll miss terribly.
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Re: The End of Leasing? And do you care? [1stpik] by fezo
Jul 25, 2008 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: 1stpik (Jul 25, 2008 6:02 pm)

While it doesn't affect me since I've never even considered a lease I applaud the move.
 
My dad leased for probably the last 15 years he was driving. I don't think he ever had a lease that made sense to me. It always seemed he had to have an extra car to dump miles on and the one time he didn't he got hosed at the end. He complained but then went right out and leased again.
 
I suppose there are a few incentive laden leases that might make sense but doing that much math hurts my head.
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Re: The End of Leasing? And do you care? [Mr_Shiftright] by tedebear
Jul 25, 2008 (11:48 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 25, 2008 4:49 pm)

The End of Leasing? And do you care?
 
No. I've never leased a vehicle, so this will not bother me at all.
 
I've always viewed leasing like paying rent on an apartment that will never be paid off and I will never own. After 48 months of payments on a new car it's all mine and no more payments. I usually keep my vehicles 9-10 years.
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Re: The End of Leasing? And do you care? [fezo] by 1stpik
Jul 26, 2008 (3:35 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Jul 25, 2008 6:23 pm)

"He complained but then went right out and leased again."
 
He had to. He had no car, and no equity in the leased car to offset the price of a new car. He was starting all over from scratch.
 
This is why dealers always push leases. Like heroin and crack, once you get hooked, you can never stop using them.
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by edklein
Jul 26, 2008 (5:07 am)
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It will be interesting to see if it has an effect on the used car market down the road and car sales in general. I suspect that more people will choose to keep their cars longer when they're no longer forced by the lease to turn them back in every 3-4 years.
 
Everytime I've looked into leasing, it's never come close to making sense. Especially here in Texas where I've learned you still pay sales tax on the full price of the car, not just for the value that you're leasing.
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Re: [edklein] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 26, 2008 (7:05 am)
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Replying to: edklein (Jul 26, 2008 5:07 am)

All great points. My impression of leasing was that it does have that "hooked on drugs" quality to it because it allows a consumer to get into a level of car they normally could not afford to buy. This is a very tempting scenario, to be able to drive an Acura rather than a Honda, a BMW rather than a Camry, an Audi rather than a VW, etc.
 
Given that many leases were "sub-vented", that is, supported by the manufacturer, by boosting residual values well beyond their actual market prices 2-3 years down the road---that's about as reckless as those sub-prime loans. But it sure makes those monthlies look attractive.
 
Effects of the disappearance of leasing? How might that effect new and used car sales?
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Re: [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
Jul 26, 2008 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 26, 2008 7:05 am)

I bet there will be a big impact on entry level and moderately priced German lux cars - a significant percentage of 3er, 5er, C, and E sales have to be leases - so many of them are leased in my area anyway. I think a fair number of Lexus IS are leased too - it creates that amusing demographic stereotype of the 28 year old recent college grad in the leased C or 3er who can barely afford it, but is addicted to keeping up appearances. For those German cars, it creates a glut of 3-5 year old cars in the market, and residuals suffer. Maybe this will help some in the long term.
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Leasing and the value consumer by saabgirl
Jul 26, 2008 (9:01 am)
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Leasing is great for the value consumer, because we can pick up a two- or three-year-old car in great condition with low mileage for cheap and put another 100K on it easily. Why more folks don't figure this out is beyond me.
 
Chrysler can end leasing, but I'm not so sure about manufacturers of $50K+ vehicles. Some people can buy 'em, but my impression is that leasing is the only way much of the market can put one in their garage.
 
I agree that the leasing arithmetic never made sense. Let's see, first you pay $3,000 just to get in the game, them you pay X every month while honoring driving restrictions, and at the end of the lease you give back the car and they keep the cash. And this is legal, you say?

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