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Noisy SkySlider Roof at Approximately 70 mph

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Noisy SkySlider Roof at approximately 70MPH!!! by gtangjr
Jul 14, 2008 (1:37 pm)
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Here is the transcript of a conversation between myself and another member taking place on another string of posts. I think the issue warrants its own discussion topic.
 
If anyone is experiencing this issue, please make note of it here so that we can work toward a solution.
 
Best,
 
Gilbert
 
______________________________________________
 
His Question:
 
How do you deal with the skyslider noise? Anytime I drive at around 65+ MPH, the noise disrupts conversation in the cab. It is so distracting and loud. Have you done or tried anything to minimize this problem? Thanks
 
My Response:
 
This is a very good question. Our noise fluctuates in terms of speed and it seems to also be linked to the weather (ie - expanding and contract[ing] of rubber seal with hot or cold). That is, sometimes it happens at 50MPH, and sometimes not until 80MPH.
  
When we first heard it, particularly how loud it was, we were startled. The next day we took it to the dealer and they said it's a fact of life at 70MPH and above. Very frustrating, especially when they advertise it as being so well-tested.
  
However, the vehicle we had prior to the Liberty (in addition to our IS250) was a Camry Solara Convertible which wasn't quiet either. We also listen to our music at a higher-than-average volume level. In other words, we really don't notice it too much.
  
That said, I'm still looking at solutions. In my own informal evaluation of the issue I think that I have isolated the cause of the issue. As you know, bordering the SkySlider roof there is a thick rubber seal that protrudes approximately an inch above the roof itself. If you manipulate the seal you'll note that it is not actually attached to the car. That is to say that the part that of the rubber seal that makes contact with the metal roof of the car is not "glued" down.
  
I think that at certain speeds (according to the dealer, 70MPH) wind gets under the seal, producing the wind noise. To test this theory, simply wedge something small like a folded business card under the seal (AT YOUR OWN RISK!) and you should hear the noise at significantly lower speeds.
  
So, I'm toying with the idea of actually gluing the seal down, preventing the noise altogether. Then again, I probably won't because I'm too afraid of voiding the warranty by doing so.
  
If enough people complain about the issue and the fact that it was not advertised as such, I think that Jeep will be forced to come up with a solution and release it via TSB.
  
Write Jeep corporate!
  
Gilbert
 
His Response:
 
Thank you Gilbert for your reply!
  
I feel like the only one complaining about this. Please let me know if your investigations go well. If you find a solution or at least a temporary quick fix, I would really appreciate that.
  
Thanks Again!
  
Ashkaan
 
My Response:
 
I don't think you're the only one complaining about it at all, since Jeep has a TSB concerning the issue. The only problem is the TSB doesn't give a useful solution, only suggesting that it's a fact of life with the roof.
  
But again, let's stay vigilant about this to help promote a fix.
  
I will copy and paste our messages to another post specific to the issue.
  
Gilbert
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Re: Noisy SkySlider Roof at approximately 70MPH!!! [gtangjr] by cmoa84
Jul 24, 2008 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: gtangjr (Jul 14, 2008 1:37 pm)

I actually don't drive over 65 mph, but since last week I noticed that the front lateral part of the SkySlider was lifting when I start reaching 40 mph, and it continues lifting even more while I increase the speed. When it do that, then it get very noisy because the noise is coming from that opening.
 
When I go to the dealer to tell them about this concern (because when I bought it 2 months ago it didn't do that) they said that it was NORMAL!!!! ....... And I said that it is not normal because that problem started just a few days ago (I can't believe they didn't try to find a solution for the problem)
 
I think I did everything I could. They told me that they can not do anything right now because the car is brand new and there are no specifications about that kind of problems.
 
I would like to know if someone is experiencing this or experienced it already and got it fixed and how.
 
Thank you very much !!!!
 
~Claudette
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SOLUTION.... maybe? by jeepboy08
Jul 25, 2008 (7:14 pm)
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Well, if sounds ANYTHING like how the old and some of the new wranglers do/did, then crank up the air/heat. That's what we did in my old one. And it blew it up like a balloon. If that doesn't work then always make sure that it is completely closed.
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Re: SOLUTION.... maybe? [jeepboy08] by cmoa84
Jul 25, 2008 (10:15 pm)
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Replying to: jeepboy08 (Jul 25, 2008 7:14 pm)

Thank you for your solution advice ... but Iam not sure I understand what you are trying to explain... I would really appreciate if you can explain it better to me to see if I can go to the dealer and ask them if they can check better my SkySlider having the backup of your advice.
 
Thank you!!!
 
~Claudette
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Re: SOLUTION.... maybe? [cmoa84] by jeepboy08
Jul 26, 2008 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: cmoa84 (Jul 25, 2008 10:15 pm)

Okay! When you are riding on the highway, and your SkySlider makes large amounts of noise, it is because the fabric is loose. Very loose. To solve this problem (maybe), you can roll up all the windows and turn the air on full blast, or the heat. Whichever you prefer. In doing this, it essentially inflates the car like a balloon, making the SkySlider fabric very tight. When the fabric is tight, it will not make noise, or at least not as much noise.
 
Do you see what I am saying?
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Noisy SkySlider Roof by basler
Sep 10, 2008 (6:40 pm)
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I have been discussing this issue with Jeep. They told me to get another opinion on the wind noise. I discussed the issue with another service manager who stated that he had a convertible LeBarron with a convertible roof top that was noisey. He said he installed an air deflector on the roof which eliminated the problem. I thought of the same solution however, Mopar only has air deflectors for sun roofs. If Jeep engineers an air defector that should resolve the problem.
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Re: SOLUTION.... maybe? [jeepboy08] by basler
Sep 10, 2008 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: jeepboy08 (Jul 26, 2008 6:27 am)

I tried that with limited success. I do not believe the issue is with the frabic. I think it the issue is aerodynamics complicated with faulty weather seals and flaw of wind deflection. Roof is too flat.
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Re: Noisy SkySlider Roof [basler] by gtangjr
Sep 11, 2008 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: basler (Sep 10, 2008 6:40 pm)

We have been working very closely with our Jeep dealership on this matter and I can attest to the fact, having seen evidence with my own eyes, that there is an official technical service bulletin on this matter.
 
Jeep has created a solution to the issue that involves a new part and a complete re-install of the slider roof. Currently, the part is on backorder and we are on the waiting list.
 
As soon as we have it installed, I will update this message board.
 
That said, if ANY Jeep dealer tries to tell you there isn't any data on this, know that they are either lying or misinformed, as there is supporting documentation available.
 
I will scan and post the TSB, a copy of which I have retained, soon.
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Re: Noisy SkySlider Roof [gtangjr] by cmoa84
Sep 11, 2008 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: gtangjr (Sep 11, 2008 11:27 am)

Thank you so much for your reply message. I really appreciate it because right now I was like with crossed hands because people in the dealership were treating me like if I was crazy, so I decided to leave the Sky Slider like that, even though it was driving me crazy. They were telling me that it was normal, even though when I bought it, I didn't have that problem.
 
Now I can call the dealer and tell them that I was right!!!! THANKS TO YOU!!!

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