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Re: Wind Power at 16k is not a home option [andre1969]
by dave8697
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Sep 26, 2008 (9:09 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Sep 23, 2008 8:36 am)
I've been suprised by the cooling efficiency. My 9 years newer house, 800 s.f. larger air conditioned space, and located further south and closer to the city so the average summer day is 5 degrees hotter is about the same cost to run in the summer as the old house. My electric doesn't run a well or the hot water heater like in the old house. This year's new house $145 peak summer bill for about 1350 KWhrs suprises me. The 5 degrees warmer climate will help in the winter, when my natural gas bills kick in. No idea what they will run. During the cold times like single digit days, the old house was about $10 a day to heat with electric. The heat pump didn't do much and two 30 amp heat stips kicked in.
Water is the big change. It used to use a few bucks a month for electric to pump it. Now the city charges $85 a month for about 9000 gallons a month at the new house. Never thought of the well as saving nearly my entire work commute worth of gas money. Actually not a bad selling point to have a well now that city water is so expensive.
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- #906 of 2183
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Re: Wind Power at 16k is not a home option [dave8697]
by explorerx4
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Sep 27, 2008 (4:03 am)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Sep 26, 2008 9:09 pm)
i just checked my water bill. we get billed by cubic feet. not sure how that compares to gallons.
we still measure gas in gallons, though. 
i saw gas for 3.599 yesterday.
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Re: Wind Power at 16k is not a home option [explorerx4]
by andre1969
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Sep 27, 2008 (4:51 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Sep 27, 2008 4:03 am)
I think a cubic foot of water is something like 7.5 gallons?
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Re: Wind Power at 16k is not a home option [explorerx4]
by dieselone
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Sep 27, 2008 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Sep 27, 2008 4:03 am)
With city water, it's usually not the water portion that is expensive, but the sewage portion. Our sewage portion of our bill is usually more than the water. Since our sewage rates are high, we have two meters. One, for inside the house that sewage rates apply and a separate meter for our outside spicates. This way I can water the lawn etc w/o getting a $150/mo sewage bill.
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Re: Wind Power at 16k is not a home option [andre1969]
by gagrice
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Sep 27, 2008 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Sep 27, 2008 4:51 am)
Very close. If your water company bills by HCF (hundred cubic feet) as ours does. One HCF equals 748 gallons. My two month bill for 29,000 gallons was $130. I water a lot of fruit trees and garden.
My utilities are far more than my gas at $4 per gallon.
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Re: Wind Power at 16k is not a home option [dieselone]
by gagrice
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Sep 27, 2008 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Sep 27, 2008 5:39 am)
And I thought CA utilities were high. Our old house sewer bill is $81 for 2 months. Based on water usage. We did not have separate meters for watering.
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Re: Wind Power at 16k is not a home option [gagrice]
by dieselone
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Sep 27, 2008 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 27, 2008 7:33 am)
Our old house sewer bill is $81 for 2 months.
Our water bill is usually around $70/mo including sewage (depending on how much I watered the lawn). My parents live in northern Indiana and the get sacked with a $75/mo fixed sewage fee. Ouch!
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Re: Wind Power at 16k is not a home option [dieselone]
by gagrice
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Sep 27, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Sep 27, 2008 7:38 am)
I'm glad we have a septic system. It needs to be pumped about every 3 - 4 years. Costs about $300. The City should pay the homeowner for all the gas they get in the sewage 
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Re: Wind Power at 16k is not a home option [gagrice]
by kdhspyder
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Sep 27, 2008 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 27, 2008 7:55 am)
Septic here also on the beach in NC. Water for the two of us is about $15 / mo. No gas or oil here, everything is electric including the heat pump. The monthly electric bill ranges from $90 to $150 a month at each extreme. A typical bill is $105.
We got rid of our land line telephone in order to cut back even further. Sold the Solara Convertible in favor of a Harley Sportster 883 ( her ride ).
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Re: Wind Power at 16k is not a home option [explorerx4]
by tankbeans
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Sep 27, 2008 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Sep 27, 2008 4:03 am)
Gas is down to $3.32 here in MN, southern Twin Cities.
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