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Automotive News & Views How does gas at $4 and higher impact you?
2183 messages, Last post on Nov 21, 2009 at 5:13 PM
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 24, 2008 8:40 pm) One of the early designers of the WCI was, yep you guessed it, your good buds at CARB.  Beginning in 2012, they will include automotive fuel emissions in the system. Until then, it is just power generators and large emitters like that.
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 25, 2008 7:17 am) I guess the devil is in the details, but carbon cap and trade should result in lower emissions across the board. The emissions standards will continue to tighten, so companies that sit back and spend money on credits instead of reducing their emissions will find it increasingly expensive to do so. RUG has fallen to an average of $3.73 here, which is a penny below the national average (unless that's changed already). Usually we're a dime or more higher in Idaho, so I'm enjoying it while I can.
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 25, 2008 7:53 am) |
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Here's one viewpoint that we haven't heard from yet in these posts. Toyota turned things upside down this week with a day-long session it called the Toyota Sustainable Mobility Seminar. We were wined and dined, but only after listening to a parade of top scientists and researchers tell us, in unsparing detail, how the planet is running out of oil and water; how the biofuels we look to as potential replacements for oil aren't worth the power and water it takes to make 'em, and how we now are consuming 40 percent more resources each year than the planet can sustain. It was not, as you can tell, a particularly spirit-lifting session. Bill Reinert, Toyota's North American advanced technology vehicles manager, took to the podium after the morning's sessions, held out his left wrist and, with a downward slashing motion of his right hand told us that after hearing all that had just been said he wanted us to know that the proper way to slit it was vertically, not horizontally. http://blogs.edmunds.com/greencaradvisor/ Then this one in the article following, same source. CNG delivers the same fuel economy as gasoline and is considerably less expensive. It also is far cleaner-burning that gasoline, with fewer smog-causing emissions and less carbon dioxide. For Toyota, and other automakers, use of CNG helps overcome growing concerns about the impacts on their businesses of global oil depletion and the drive for U.S. energy independence. The announcement was made Tuesday in Portland during a day-long Toyota Sustainable Mobility Conference at which one keynote speaker pointed out that of all the alternative fuels on the table today, natural gas is perhaps the easiest to put into widespread use, and also is the most plentiful. "It lasts a lot longer than crude oil," noted oil industry consultant Peter Wells said of the global supply of natural gas.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Sep 25, 2008 12:19 pm)
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| ...for a long time. Heck, I worked in a factory where all the forklift trucks were powered by it or propane. I recall seeing a Checker taxicab that was powered by CNG. I think Philadelphia Gas Works' vans use it. | |
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Sep 25, 2008 2:59 pm) Thus they are going to investigate CNG as a more abundant fuel which is available in friendlier environments such as the USA and is also cleaner. Japan has a lot of our dollars which I'm sure they'd like to recycle back to us if we tapped our huge reserves of NG.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Sep 25, 2008 4:02 pm)  Filled the wife's LS400 today at Costco. Premium was $3.69. RUG $3.49. ARCO was the same just no 3% discount for using the Costco AMEX card. Most cabs and buses in San Diego are CNG. Saves money now. |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Sep 23, 2008 8:36 am) Water is the big change. It used to use a few bucks a month for electric to pump it. Now the city charges $85 a month for about 9000 gallons a month at the new house. Never thought of the well as saving nearly my entire work commute worth of gas money. Actually not a bad selling point to have a well now that city water is so expensive. |
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Replying to: dave8697 (Sep 26, 2008 9:09 pm) we still measure gas in gallons, though. i saw gas for 3.599 yesterday. |
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