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How does gas at $4 and higher impact you?

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Re: I was wondering [gagrice] by dieselone
Jun 12, 2009 (4:14 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 11, 2009 8:27 pm)

One year ago today I filled the Sequoia and the price was $4.60 per gallon for RUG. Costco is holding at $2.75 for now. Most stations around me are hitting $3 per gallon with diesel still at $2.59. A guy needs one of each to beat the man.
 
I'm currently getting ready to head to down to the lake for the weekend and realized the gas in our boat is from last October and I paid over $4.30/gal. Under $3 and I don't really pay attention to the price of gas. I remember paying over $3/gal for the first time right after Katrina, when was that? Two to three years ago?
 
What I find odd is the last time gas started creeping up to $3/gal and above people on the street and the lib media were screaming that Bush/Cheney were the cause and were doing nothing about it. I remember some Dems screaming the the same kind of crap. Hell, I've hardly heard a thing on the liberal news outlets lately on gas prices or the fact oil is back over $71/barrel.
 
I think the Dems want expensive oil so they can cram their energy policy down our throats. I believe something needs to be done and we do need reduce our oil use.
 
Gas still will have to routinely get over $4.50/gal for me to consider changing the way I use gas. Probably the $5/gal range would make it worth while to park the Expedition and buy a small car to run around town in. I'd love to have a VW Jetta Sportwagon TDI to run around in while paying less for diesel and getting 30-40mpg. Probably would have enough utility to use it to go down to the lake and I'd only need the Expedition when towing our boat or when our girls bring friends with.
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Re: one for the fear mongers [andre1969] by lemko
Jun 12, 2009 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 11, 2009 10:12 am)

Whoa! Thanks for reminding me! I better fill-up the Brougham before the GM show or else I'm going to have to apply for a mortgage if I wait too long!
 
I'll KNOW gasoline prices are way too high if it keeps us from Carlisle! Last year was insane!
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I did the math... by bumpy
Jun 12, 2009 (7:06 am)
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and figured out that I put 295 gallons of gas in the smart over the last year, plus another 50-75 gallons for the other 2 cars, and 40 gallons for the lawnmower. So maybe 400 altogether?
 
I suppose that's not awful, but it's more than I'm happy with. Unfortunately, the only diesel cars that fit my tastes and budget are junky VWs. There is a wide variety of new and used diesel options to cut the grass, though.
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Re: one for the fear mongers [lemko] by andre1969
Jun 12, 2009 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 12, 2009 6:33 am)

I'll KNOW gasoline prices are way too high if it keeps us from Carlisle! Last year was insane!
 
I have my 5th Ave's mileage log with me right now, as I was entering some data into a spreadsheet. The first time I broke $4.00 per gallon was on 7/11/08, as I filled it up down here, before going up for the Mopar show. I paid $4.319 per gallon for 93 octane at the local Shell. When I got up to Dillsburg, PA, where I turn off 15 to take the back roads to Carlisle, I stopped off and topped off because I saw gas for the low, low price of $4.099! When I ran the math, somehow I got 21.3 mpg on that stretch, which I'm not buying. However, it was pure highway, and I wasn't driving that fast, so I guess it's possible. Probably more possible though, that the pump just shut off a little early!
 
That fill-up lasted me all weekend up there, and I didn't fill up again until 7/15/08, again at the Shell station, and again at $4.319. And then I didn't put gas in it again until November, when it was down to $2.599 for 89 octane. It bottomed out at $1.759 for 93 octane the day after Christmas.
 
The cheapest fill-up I ever had for that car was on 10/20/01. I had just brought it home, and filled up for $1.079 per gallon. I think that was mid-grade.
 
If gas prices get too high, I guess I can always borrow my uncle's Corolla for the shows we attend where I don't put a car in. But even there, it's really not saving much money, considering the sacrifice (slower, noisier, not as good of a highway cruiser, weaker a/c, more cramped etc). My Intrepid can break 30 mpg on that trip pretty easily, where my uncle's Corolla gets around 37-38. Over the course of 250 miles, we're talking about a savings of less than two gallons of gas. If that's enough to break me, then there are some pretty deep-rooted problems in my finances!
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Re: I did the math... [bumpy] by dieselone
Jun 12, 2009 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jun 12, 2009 7:06 am)

Unfortunately, the only diesel cars that fit my tastes and budget are junky VWs.
 
Hmm, I had a VW Jetta TDI and it was one of the best built and rewarding vehicles I've ever owned (It shamed my grandpa's Park Ave of the same year in terms of interior material and quality). Nice ride, quiet, refined, top notch interior, good handling, and an honest 50mpg vehicle. Never had any trouble with it and I take another over any GM vehicle in the same price range. If I needed another car that's probably where I'd look first and I'd also look at a Fusion Hybrid too.
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Re: I did the math... [dieselone] by bumpy
Jun 12, 2009 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Jun 12, 2009 7:18 am)

Well, I found these two on Craigslist:
 
http://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/1206024724.html
http://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/1210074800.html
 
$5,000 is way too much for a 12-year-old German car that got a new engine because some part fell into the oilpan, and for $5500 you can spell correctly and buy a new camera. The 99+ Jettas are too fat and heavy, and the pre-TDIs are too slow.
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go diesel by turnten
Jun 12, 2009 (9:16 am)
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Last time around, I had a car with marginal gas mileage, and every fill up hurt. On our turbo forester, we even disconnected the factory boost control to keep boost at the minimum, although that did not help much. Now, I drive less and in a more efficient car, so, its bad, but not terrible.
 
The other interesting thing about last time around is diesel was freaking expensive. Over $5 in many cases. Now with prices often under regular, it seems the clear future for the US, and hopefully we can get some of the high efficiency diesels from europe like the Polo blue. Top gear got over 70mpg in it which crushes hybrids and at a decent price. Should gas go up there and stay there, this would become a real consideration for many people and push the diesel cause further.
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Re: I did the math... [bumpy] by avalon02wh
Jun 12, 2009 (2:15 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jun 12, 2009 7:06 am)

40 gallons in the lawnmower...Wow...I probably used 3 gallons last summer in the Honda. You must be keeping the back 40 nicely manicured.
 
When gas hits $4 you could trade your Smart car in for Smart Brabus Electric Drive.
 
http://news.cnet.com/2300-11386_3-10001035.html?tag=nefd.gallery
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What I did by avalon02wh
Jun 12, 2009 (2:22 pm)
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Last year when gas was $4 a gallon I started riding a bike. This year I upgraded to an electric bike so I could make it up the hill. Works rather well. I still use the car about half the time to commute, but the electric bike is more fun to ride.
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too much gas by bumpy
Jun 12, 2009 (2:38 pm)
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3.5 acres = 1.5 gallons a week every week for six months. A good diesel tractor would cut that at least in half (and more with a wider mowing deck).
 
The smart ED is tempting, but I'd need a 15 kwh battery pack to make it work for me, which would probably mean stacking batteries to the roof behind the seats. So, looks like I'll be keeping the plain old smart for a while.

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