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2183 messages, Last post on Nov 21, 2009 at 5:13 PM
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 11, 2009 4:30 pm) Only a mental midget or ubber wealthy person would spend $10K to $30k to make a plug-in hybrid from a Prius that is still under warranty. Especially in the light of one bursting into flames. I cannot imagine an insurance company covering the car after you kludge it all up. The Cooperative Research Network (CRN) reports that a Toyota Prius PHEV owned by Central Electric Power Cooperative (CEPC) and retrofitted with a Hybrids-Plus PHEV15 conversion kit exploded on June 7. http://www.dailytech.com/Retrofitted+Plugin+Prius+Burns+to+a+Crisp+CRN+Garages+F- leet/article12132.htm Li-Ion batteries have many years of testing before I would get into a car load of them. I don't care if gas is $20 per gallon. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 11, 2009 4:30 pm) And if some of us don't have "a bit more"? I guess we'll just put our thumbs out and you rich guys will give us a lift.
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Feb 13, 2009 7:26 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 13, 2009 7:59 am)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Feb 13, 2009 8:39 am) If you are NOT committed to forcing the automakers to change their product offerings for this goal, then certainly it is your prerogative to buy the cheapest thing available that meets your needs, regardless of fuel economy. The goal of reducing oil consumption was the basis of the exchange between gagrice and I, however. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 13, 2009 7:59 am) Well one of my cars is 52 years old now, so I guess that means that anything new I might buy will probably outlive me!
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 13, 2009 9:15 am) Oil consumption is a global issue, not a U.S. one to solve, or that can be solved. People in China who are now buying more cars than people in the U.S. are economically forced to drive the cheapest technology, then no oil consumption reduction would be made. Sure you can reduce oil consumption in the U.S. but overall nothing will be achieved. Global issues can not be solved by any single country.
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Replying to: kernick (Feb 13, 2009 10:16 am) BTW, call me a pie-eyed idealist if you like, but I find it disheartening when someone refers to a global issue as "unsolvable". No problem is unsolvable, it is just that some require more cooperation among the peoples of the world than we have thus far demonstrated. That does NOT mean we never will. |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 13, 2009 9:35 am) 55 desoto |
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 13, 2009 9:15 am) My complaint was with the concept of trying to bribe people who are supposed to be making something we the customer is willing to buy. We the customer should not have to bribe the manufacturer they should make the product we want to spend the money on. When the Japanese came into this market they didn't ask the customer to pay more for their cars than what we were already we buying. It is their job not our to win us over. The minute you allow them to know they can charge more for whatever they offer they will simply stop trying to make one the average consumer can afford. That is how it works and how it should work in a free economy. I am saying that it is the job of the manufacturers not the consumers. My commitment to better air quality is as much as many and more than Al Gore. His house alone has a larger carbon foot print than everything I own. I have cut my driving by 50 to 60 percent without paying GM, Toyota,Nissan or anyone extra for the privalige. If the manufacturers can't provide a solution that will see to the customer and a price the customer wants to pay then they don't deserve our business. we must get away from the mentality of tossing more money at a problem. We need other solutions that just might not include the major auto manufacturers. If the big six through up there hands and say we can't then some smaller company has an opportunity to step in and say they can. I'm not ready to fold my card in and allow the manufacturers more to correct a problem they should have addressed years ago. You may be. But I still like you.
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