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How does gas at $4 and higher impact you?

2183 messages, Last post on Nov 21, 2009 at 5:13 PM

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#1962 of 2183 Re: [boaz47] by gagrice Jan 19, 2009 (7:01 pm)
Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 19, 2009 6:17 pm) You have to ask this question. If the IRS were to add a spot on our tax return, for US to kick in more for roads, bridges and buses, How many of the enviro do gooders would contribute? Then we have fat cats like Warren Buffett, saying that their taxes are too low. No one is stopping him from contributing more to the COMMON GOOD. Our forefathers founded this country to get away from repressive taxes imposed by monarchs. We have half wits trying to get US to emulate those countries. sheesh. The states and Feds need to start using the gas tax as it was proposed. Not for other crap. There would be plenty if used as intended. Replies to this message: steve_ (Jan 19, 2009 8:14 pm) gagrice (Jan 19, 2009 8:22 pm) xrunner2 (Jan 20, 2009 4:21 pm) steve_ (Jan 20, 2009 7:35 pm) and 11 more... xrunner2 (Jan 20, 2009 7:38 am) explorerx4 (Jan 20, 2009 3:08 pm) gagrice (Jan 20, 2009 3:51 pm) larsb (Jan 21, 2009 6:27 am)
#1963 of 2183 Re: [gagrice] by steve_ HOST Jan 19, 2009 (8:14 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 19, 2009 7:01 pm) Not a bad idea actually. Every once in a while you'll read a story (from the IRS) where someone donated money to the US Treasury. They have a charitable checkoff on the Alaska Permanent Fund now, and the public campaign financing checkoff has been around for a long time now. Gas continues to creep up around here. Some stations are now up to $1.73 for regular. Won't be too long till we break the $2 barrier again. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jan 19, 2009 8:22 pm) xrunner2 (Jan 20, 2009 4:21 pm) steve_ (Jan 20, 2009 7:35 pm) xrunner2 (Jan 21, 2009 6:20 am) and 10 more...
#1964 of 2183 Re: [steve_] by gagrice Jan 19, 2009 (8:22 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Jan 19, 2009 8:14 pm) My Costco is at $1.93 as of Friday. I donate a pot full to the IRS every stinking year. I don't even get a thank you note or a Christmas Card.
#1965 of 2183 needs some 'splainin'..... by nippononly Jan 19, 2009 (10:22 pm)
Oil remains at a 12-month low (and perhaps a low over an even longer period), and yet the $0.30/gallon that gas went down after mid-November is all BACK. I was out on the highway this weekend, paid $2.29 at the bottom of the Grapevine, a freeway exit where about eight gas stations are all colluding on price - it was $2.29 at all of them. Even in my local area it is up close to $2.10 for regular unleaded now, and we had $1.70 around Thanksgiving, so gas prices are well and truly on their way UP - that's almost a 25% increase for me in the last 4-6 weeks. There seems to be no method to them, no predictability to them, and from where I'm sitting anyone who would GUARANTEE we wouldn't have $4 gas again this summer in my neck of the woods would certainly just be talking out of their ear... Replies to this message: steve_ (Jan 19, 2009 10:55 pm) wlbrown9 (Jan 20, 2009 2:06 pm) duke23 (Jan 20, 2009 9:13 pm) boaz47 (Jan 20, 2009 11:19 pm)
#1966 of 2183 Re: needs some 'splainin'..... [nippononly] by steve_ HOST Jan 19, 2009 (10:55 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Jan 19, 2009 10:22 pm) Some refineries are apparently still losing money - at least one anyway. "Flint Hills Resources says the refinery has lost money over the past year while the company considered whether to sell it, close up shop or invest in major upgrades to make it more profitable." Refinery operator says funding out I've sort of been following this story and haven't heard anything in the last month about how they are doing.
#1967 of 2183 Re: [gagrice] by xrunner2 Jan 20, 2009 (7:38 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 19, 2009 7:01 pm) Saw article in newspaper recently about Oregon proposal to levy gasoline tax based on miles travelled on Oregon public roads. It would require that new vehicles sold/licensed in Oregon have a GPS device with some kind of tracking/memory capability. Gas stations in Oregon would have device to read GPS, when vehicle is bing fueled, to determine amount of miles travelled and then assess tax for miles travelled. This of course means that lightweight Prius would pay same miles use tax as a gargantuan Suburban. Unless of course Oregon puts in a two part tax: everyone pays same rate for miles travelled, an extra charge per mile depending upon the weight of vehicle registered. Thus, conservers in a Prius get a break while gluttons in a Suburban pay more. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Jan 20, 2009 3:08 pm) gagrice (Jan 20, 2009 3:51 pm) larsb (Jan 21, 2009 6:27 am)
#1968 of 2183 Re: needs some 'splainin'..... [nippononly] by wlbrown9 Jan 20, 2009 (2:06 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Jan 19, 2009 10:22 pm) Some posted a link to an article that showed refiners were not producing as much gas since prices are down...said some were producing more diesel, jet fuel or heating oil. Here in Bartlett, Tn Kroger blinked at the pump yesterday. They started a couple of weeks ago leading the charge to higher prices, topping out at $1.739 last week. Others in the area were following right on their heels in raising prices. Now Monday I go by and Kroger has dropped back down to $1.599 and were still there Tuesday morning. Only time will tell if they will stay lower. (Many of us get $.10 gallon discount at Kroger for each $100 spent in the store...other times it is only $.03 just for using their card. So, paid $1.499 net yesterday after paying $1.639 last Friday.
#1969 of 2183 Re: [xrunner2] by explorerx4 Jan 20, 2009 (3:08 pm)
Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 20, 2009 7:38 am) my guess is that new vehicle sales in oregon would drop to just about nothing.
#1970 of 2183 Re: [xrunner2] by gagrice Jan 20, 2009 (3:51 pm)
Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 20, 2009 7:38 am) The whole tax by mile was started because of the Prius. They were seeing the move to high mileage cars cutting into their revenue. To answer the question of whether you would get the GPS in your car I think they are addressing that with a much higher tax on gas for those that do not have the widget. Or those that are just vacationing in Oregon. It seems really convoluted to me. So much easier just to read the odometer when you get a new license and pay a mileage charge with your new tags. Replies to this message: larsb (Jan 21, 2009 6:27 am)
#1971 of 2183 Re: [steve_] by xrunner2 Jan 20, 2009 (4:21 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Jan 19, 2009 8:14 pm) If new guy Geitner gets approved for Treasury, what kind of confidence will Americans have in someone that is brilliant (supposedly) that got caught not paying years of taxes. What would a Geitner do with money donated to US Treasury? Would Geitner propose a fed gas tax increase to bump up gallon prices to $4 to pay for stimulus and road projects. Some Dems like this idea. Replies to this message: steve_ (Jan 20, 2009 7:35 pm) xrunner2 (Jan 21, 2009 6:20 am) kernick (Jan 21, 2009 7:16 am) and 9 more...

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