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Re: Mileage Tax [snakeweasel] by oldfarmer50
Jan 09, 2009 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jan 07, 2009 3:36 pm)

"...With out going into a long economics lecture complete with graphs and formulas..."
 
Oh come on, I LOVE graphs and formulas!
 
I guess my point is that there is no free lunch. The choices we make will have many concequences, some intended, some not.
 
A business can only absorb so much additional cost. Competition can hold off prices increases for awhile but in the end prices rise or the business goes bust.
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Re: Mileage Tax [oldfarmer50] by explorerx4
Jan 09, 2009 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 09, 2009 4:30 pm)

if you get really desperate, i will send you some of those pivot table graphs with detail i have to do a couple of times a week.
the guy that used to do them quit so they asked me to do them.
of course i said yes. the next week he came back, but i am still doing them.
btw, i have almost a 1/2 a tank of gas left and i filled up on 12-29, so $4 gas wouldn't hurt me too much.
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By Catherine Clifford, CNNMoney.com staff writer by dave8697
Jan 09, 2009 (6:33 pm)
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We have a fundamentally very different market than we did when gas was $4 a gallon, say the experts. The oil market was pushed up to such extraordinary records by a flood of investors looking to move their cash into commodities as a safe haven from stock market volatility. Furthermore, the U.S. dollar was very weak in the summer months, and that also worked to support the price of oil, and by extension, gasoline prices.
 
But now we have:
12.5% underemployment
2.6 million good jobs lost in 2008
retail purchases are shrinking back to necessities as people live in economic fear.
If you are not going to buy, the car just sits
did overextended home mortgage people buy all the V8 suvs, and now their gas money goes to the house?
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Some things we learned. by boaz47
Jan 10, 2009 (12:03 pm)
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We now realize there was no reason to pay $4.00 a gallon for gas. It was smoke and mirrors. I remember hearing that is was heading for $8.00 a gallon maybe $10.00 if the, "gas is just too cheap in the US", people would had anything to say about it. And we know there are several that believe we should pay more for gas.
 
But reading the WSJ and some other papers this week we discovered something else. Jeans simply aren't worth $200.00 a pair. DKNY has reported that with their Christmas and after christmas sales people have become accustomed to 60-75 percent discounts and it will be very hard to charge full price for many of the goods in the future. Talking to customers people are saying they will simply wait till they see a sale in the future rather than paying full price for cloths and other goods.
 
Like I have said many times, fuel is like any other product, it is only worth what we are willing to pay for it.
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Re: Some things we learned. [boaz47] by gagrice
Jan 10, 2009 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 10, 2009 12:03 pm)

I remember hearing that is was heading for $8.00 a gallon maybe $10.00
 
At that same time there was a waiting list for a Prius at many dealerships. Now one dealer in San Diego has 106 Prius on their inventory. Amazing how 6 months can change things.
 
Talking to customers people are saying they will simply wait till they see a sale in the future rather than paying full price for cloths and other goods.
 
I mainly shop for cloths at the many thrift stores my wife loves to go to. Or maybe I will splurge and go to a Ross Dress for Less. I doubt that I average $100 per year on cloths and have a huge walk-in closet full. Over 100 Hawaiian shirts alone. Never pay retail has been my motto for a very long time.
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Re: Some things we learned. [gagrice] by boaz47
Jan 10, 2009 (8:20 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 10, 2009 4:40 pm)

How did we happen to be in the same forum? I can't remember the last time I paid full price for anything and I also like Ross. I also have a small collection of Hawaiian shirts. I do not have 100 however.
 
I just think we have been brain washed into believing the latest thing somehow is worth more than it should be. To me a fool is one that will stand in like to buy a Iphone at whatever price the company says it is worth only to discover they had the next one on the burner before they ever got out of the store. They won't work an extra fifteen minutes at a job they are being paid to do but they will stand outside of a store all night to be the first one on line for a phone that don't need. Then call in sick the next day because they have been up all night.
 
Yes it sounds like a ramble but that was just what happened with the Prius and just like the phone everyone waited for they can not get one at a discount. Instant gratification effects far too many people and knee jerk responses are most often the results.
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Re: Some things we learned. [boaz47] by gagrice
Jan 10, 2009 (9:10 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 10, 2009 8:20 pm)

I also have a small collection of Hawaiian shirts
 
We have 4 thrift shops in Hilo that we like, and at least a dozen here in SD. I am a sucker for a $3 Hawaiian shirt if it was made in Hawaii. I don't buy any of the others. I look for the older brands that have become somewhat collectible. I never had to dress up for work so wearing a tie is a horrible experience for me. Less than 10 times in the last 20 years. I also would NEVER wait in line for the latest anything. I wait until they are old tech and buy at a big discount. Sure as anything next year the latest will be less than half price.
 
Too bad we are captive to whatever the price at the pump is for gas. Back to $2 gas here. Maybe it will slide back a bit. Oil is back at $40.
 
PS
I got in on the Sprint Pioneer plan and have had the same service for 8 years. Free except for any outgoing calls. I rarely have a cell bill over $1.20 per month. They sent me an upgraded phone a few years ago.
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Re: Some things we learned. [gagrice] by tankbeans
Jan 10, 2009 (9:24 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 10, 2009 9:10 pm)

I agree. I won't wait in line for anything. I remember working at Wal-Mart, nights, when the X-Box 360 and the Wii came out within months of each other. People had been waiting in line for most of a day only to find out that we had maybe 20 of them and not 50 like some people thought. Most of those people went home with nothing.
 
I also like to wait until the bugs have been worked out of whatever I want so I won't have to be the guinea pig.
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Re: Some things we learned. [gagrice] by oldfarmer50
Jan 11, 2009 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 10, 2009 4:40 pm)

"...Over 100 Hawaiian shirts..."
 
Who are you, Magnum P.I. ?
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Re: Some things we learned. [oldfarmer50] by gagrice
Jan 11, 2009 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 11, 2009 7:28 am)

Just Hawaiian shirts no Ferrari......
 
They are comfortable and colorful. I would slit my wrist if I had to wear a suit and tie every day....
 
A friend in La Jolla owns a used men's clothing store. He took in 400 Hawaiian shirts from a Doctor that had passed away. Many still had the tags on them. Of course I got the pick of the bunch. If you are in La Jolla check out "Le Chauvinist". He has some great high end suits and cloths. Salvador is a great guy and good friend..
 
http://www.lechauvinist.com/

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