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How does gas at $4 and higher impact you?

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What is this discussion about? Gasoline, Fuel Efficiency (MPG)


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i'm sure glad i still have my suv by explorerx4
Jan 03, 2009 (9:03 am)
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took it to boston the other night.
it's still the best vehicle we have for travelling in the winter.
the rear passengers enjoyed having their own heat.
it was single digits on the way home.
glad i had it as i had the priviledge of driving on the toll road mass pike,
which had some pot holed sections that you couldn't see in the dark.
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Re: It just makes me mad [steve_] by euphonium
Jan 03, 2009 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 02, 2009 9:54 pm)

The taxes on fuel are too much as it is.
 
The solution is to spend fuel taxes on building and maintaining roads, not diverting the fuel taxes to social service agencies & other causes unrelated to vehicles.
 
Socialists usually recommend raising taxes rather than being efficient with their tax income because it is easier to rob one group to pay for another cause than to be diligent with the income at the time.
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Re: What are they thinking now? [jimbres] by tankbeans
Jan 03, 2009 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Jan 03, 2009 8:43 am)

I wonder how many of these people are suffering from buyer's remorse today?
 
I suppose somebody could start a forum with a title along those lines and then people could share experiences about dropping off their late model SUVs in favor of a small car and what, if any problems, they've had with huge negative equity amounts or lack of space for their families.
 
Just a thought.
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Re: What are they thinking now? [tankbeans] by steve_ HOST
Jan 03, 2009 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: tankbeans (Jan 03, 2009 9:10 am)

Good idea!
 
Not sure how many people are going to admit it though.
 
Sorry you sold your SUV?
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Re: Mileage Tax [oldfarmer50] by snakeweasel
Jan 03, 2009 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 03, 2009 9:01 am)

First off, what about those who live in rural areas that have to drive 2, 5, or 10 times the mileage to reach basic services.
 
Since they have to travel over 2, 5 or 10 times as much road wouldn't they use 2, 5 or 10 times as much of that road and wouldn't they do 2, 5 or 10 times as much wear and tear on the road? So to be fair shouldn't they pay more for road upkeep?
 
Second, the way they plan on assessing the tax is to install a GPS tracking device in every car.
 
Well you could do a yearly inspection and just read the odometer and assess the tax on that.
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Re: What are they thinking now? [steve_] by snakeweasel
Jan 03, 2009 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 03, 2009 9:17 am)

I have a friend that actually bought a Jeep during the high gas prices and loves it. We were actually driving it around his town seeing how low we could get the MPG reading.
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Re: What are they thinking now? [steve_] by tankbeans
Jan 03, 2009 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 03, 2009 9:17 am)

We'll have to wait and see how many people come forward.
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Re: Mileage Tax [snakeweasel] by boaz47
Jan 03, 2009 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jan 03, 2009 9:18 am)

Well you could do a yearly inspection and just read the odometer and assess the tax on that.
 
I like that idea a Lot. But would they pay me if I didn't travel more than 100 miles or so. Lets say I only put 1500 miles on my car or SUV? "what do you mean you think I disconnected my speedometer?"
 
How about this idea? When the government proposes a program they actually have to "plan" on how it will be funded. Or how about this, when you collect a road tax you actually have to spend it on roads? Or how about this, a balanced budget?
 
Maybe it is just easier to give yourself a raise of $4,000 because you have done such a fine job as a legislator? Lets see if we have this straight. Wall street messes up so it gets a break. The Auto manufacturers mess up so they get a break. The Government mess up so they turn to the people that actually did their best to follow the rules no one else followed and reaches into their wallet?
 
Maybe we should try to vote these pickle heads out of office.
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Re: What are they thinking now? [snakeweasel] by tankbeans
Jan 03, 2009 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jan 03, 2009 9:25 am)

Curious. What were your numbers? What did it involve? Lots of flooring it, hard braking, flying around people, and all those other bad habits we've all gotten ourselves into?
 
Depending on where you are I'd say you and your friend should try again and report back, when roads are nice, and then do a reversal and try to get the highest reading and report back.
 
I know I would be amused to know how you do it.
 
Of course my mileage sucks right now because it's winter. Went from 27 this summer and am down to 21-24, depending on how much I have to use the defrost. I know I'm not the only one who is having problems with winter consumption. At least gas isn't so high or we'd be spending even more on gas up here in MN, especially with mandatory E10.
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Re: What are they thinking now? [tankbeans] by steve_ HOST
Jan 03, 2009 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: tankbeans (Jan 03, 2009 9:38 am)

We'll have to wait and see how many people come forward.
 
Maybe Snakeweasel will find his way over there.

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