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Automotive News & Views How does gas at $4 and higher impact you?
2183 messages, Last post on Nov 21, 2009 at 5:13 PM
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 01, 2009 4:16 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 01, 2009 5:06 pm) 
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An '09 Impala can now be had for $17600 but maybe for not much longer. I think they squeeze 29 mpg hwy from the 211 HP V6. With my rebates, my price would be thousands lower. Since I drive 7000 miles a year max on any car and would probably avg 27 mpg with an Impala, my gas savings with a 48 mpg Prius instead would be 2.2 gallons a week. If I drove 14k miles a year, double the savings to 4.4 gallons a week. Give up so much convenience for so little? In comparison, I now save 100 gallons a month because I moved, and that netted a gain in convenience in many ways. Buying a Prius would be as much of a knee jerk reaction to 3 months ago's gas prices as buying a 6 liter suv would be one today to $1.59 gas. 27 mpg avg is an 'all things in moderation' choice. I don't see US prosperity coming back if gas goes back up to even $3 or if we all keep buying the more expensive Asian gas sippers. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 01, 2009 12:54 pm) To show an example of poking a sharp stick in the eye of the consumer, and another reason I oppose taxing gas as you suggested, the news announced today that both our state and the Feds are concerned with the decrease in useage. As a reward for this conservation they are looking to increase fuel taxes as much as 50% to cover the loss or short fall. Like I mentioned before increasing taxes will not go to new roads or new industries. The government will simply pocket it to cover whatever programs they are "already" funding. So we were told to cut back on useage and we did and for that we will get a 50 percent tax increase? I can hardly wait to see what happens if we cut useage even more. Will we be required to work in the oil fields one week a year for free? If we discover an alternative fuel will we have to pay taxes to cover the loss revenue from the oil companies?
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 02, 2009 1:17 pm) |
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I wonder if cheap gas will make the overpaid underworked dopes who sequence stoplights intentionally mess up the sequencing to make cars burn a little more gas. They seem to have done that in my area 
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That they were preaching for us to cut back on useage and out of the other side of their face they decide to punish us for doing just what they told us we should do. Think about it. If they would have taxed us first and then we cut back on useage they would have had to tax us again to make us pay for successfully getting us to drive less or heaven forbid use more fuel efficient cars. With their reasoning if we all would have switched to diesels or Hybrids they would have increased our fuel taxes by 100 percent just to cover the lose tax revenue from using less fuel. Maybe if we have a very cold winter our country can burn enough oil to save the rest of us from being taxed out of our socks. If any have been reading this forum they will remember there were those that were sad to see gas drop below $4.00. They were sad when SUVs roamed the streets and said we would live in a better country is we only started saving fuel by driving sub compacts and hybrids. We saved more than 6 percent in fuel useage and now we have the joy of making it up in increased taxes? Makes one hope the SUV makes a comeback.
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 02, 2009 1:17 pm) |
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 02, 2009 9:18 pm) We could privatize all of them and let the owner collect tolls.
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 02, 2009 9:54 pm) Obama plans to spend a $1,000,000,000,000 on fixing all the problems. Infrastructure was top of the list. So not to worry. High mileage cars are an issue. Those that hate SUVs like the fact that we pay 2 to 3 times more road tax than the econo boxes. What would be the tax revenue taken in if all the PU Trucks and SUVs were banned? How much does each Prius driver contribute to the roads compared to each Tahoe Driver? Right today in CA there is more fuel tax than any other state. Yet they want more. If Ahnold and the goons in the legislature would spend the road tax on the roads we would not need an SUV to get home through all the potholes. I feel like I am living in Mexico with some of our roads. I was very impressed with the roads in Texas. We traveled 8 days in Texas and rarely used the Interstate highways. We stuck to back roads and 2 lane highways. Many were posted 75 MPH and were wide and smooth. Unlike here where the let every tom, dick and harry contractor dig them up for utilities, then haphazardly patch them. I would doubt that even half of our CA gas tax goes to maintaining roads and bridges. Unless they are spending it all in and around Sacramento. |
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