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How does gas at $4 and higher impact you?

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and conservation continues by nippononly
Jan 01, 2009 (12:54 pm)
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The news reported this morning that despite the price of gas spiralling down into the basement the last 3 months, Americans STILL used 6.1% less of it during that quarter than the same quarter in 2007. Since the nationwide rise in gasoline consumption during the 20 years before that was a reliable 3-4% per year, that effectively represents close to a 10% reduction in use.
 
Americans are learning. While demand remains low and sinking, I think $4 gas is a way off.
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2009 by dave8697
Jan 01, 2009 (1:13 pm)
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I hope for many things this year.
 
1. Gas stays under $2 so I can enjoy using my 16 mpg Silverado
2. My company stock goes up a 20 percent in the next month
3. House prices stabilize
4. Home Insurance becomes reasonable
5. Colts beat Chargers Saturday night
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Re: and conservation continues [nippononly] by bumpy
Jan 01, 2009 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 01, 2009 12:54 pm)

Americans STILL used 6.1% less of it during that quarter than the same quarter in 2007.
 
Yeah, because the ones who were laid off aren't driving to work now.
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Re: and conservation continues [nippononly] by oldfarmer50
Jan 01, 2009 (3:06 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 01, 2009 12:54 pm)

"...Americans Still used 6.1% less..."
 
I also hear that some dopes are back to buying SUVs as sales have taken a bounce. What are they thinking? Now that the gas hysteria has subsided is the time to buy those hybrids and 4-cyl, gas sippers. Buy the SUVs when gas is $4 and save a fortune. Some people would rather be blown by the wind than use their heads.
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Re: and conservation continues [oldfarmer50] by boaz47
Jan 01, 2009 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 01, 2009 3:06 pm)

Oh you are right. Used small compacts were pretty high a few months ago. I got a good deal on my Tahoe right about the time prices were dropping on SUVs. But at over $4.00 bucks even I considered picking up a sub compact if it hit $5.00. Some people were getting more than 2K for old metros. Now they are back to 1k or less like they were before the rush. Corollas, Civics, and Sentras are back to spare car prices. And surprise, surprise, they are putting money on the hood of those Prius, Prii, prius"? whatever.
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Re: and conservation continues [boaz47] by gagrice
Jan 01, 2009 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 01, 2009 4:16 pm)

The knee jerk reaction to fuel prices has always amazed me. As sure as I am sitting here they will go up and will go down. As you and others have said. If you have any inclination to own a smaller car NOW is the time to be looking and getting a deal of a lifetime. Every auto maker is hurting with huge left over inventories. Paying over invoice for any vehicle right now is crazy. Well I hear the Mini is holding its own. Buying a 2009 Prius at well under invoice does not seem possible as they were in short supply just a few months ago. It is name your price and walk if they don't go for it.
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Re: and conservation continues [gagrice] by boaz47
Jan 01, 2009 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 01, 2009 5:06 pm)

I believe you hit the nail on the head. Looking at those cars in the Harbor parking lots and reading about the stacking up inventory allows you to go into a Toyota dealer and just laugh at any salesman that tries to tell you they are back ordered or in short supply. And the posted article from Toyota would be a good item to flash in his face. There is justice in the world.
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let it slip by? by dave8697
Jan 01, 2009 (8:37 pm)
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An '09 Impala can now be had for $17600 but maybe for not much longer. I think they squeeze 29 mpg hwy from the 211 HP V6. With my rebates, my price would be thousands lower. Since I drive 7000 miles a year max on any car and would probably avg 27 mpg with an Impala, my gas savings with a 48 mpg Prius instead would be 2.2 gallons a week. If I drove 14k miles a year, double the savings to 4.4 gallons a week. Give up so much convenience for so little? In comparison, I now save 100 gallons a month because I moved, and that netted a gain in convenience in many ways.
 
Buying a Prius would be as much of a knee jerk reaction to 3 months ago's gas prices as buying a 6 liter suv would be one today to $1.59 gas. 27 mpg avg is an 'all things in moderation' choice. I don't see US prosperity coming back if gas goes back up to even $3 or if we all keep buying the more expensive Asian gas sippers.
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Re: and conservation continues [nippononly] by boaz47
Jan 02, 2009 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 01, 2009 12:54 pm)

"The news reported this morning that despite the price of gas spiralling down into the basement the last 3 months, Americans STILL used 6.1% less of it during that quarter than the same quarter in 2007. Since the nationwide rise in gasoline consumption during the 20 years before that was a reliable 3-4% per year, that effectively represents close to a 10% reduction in use."
 
To show an example of poking a sharp stick in the eye of the consumer, and another reason I oppose taxing gas as you suggested, the news announced today that both our state and the Feds are concerned with the decrease in useage. As a reward for this conservation they are looking to increase fuel taxes as much as 50% to cover the loss or short fall. Like I mentioned before increasing taxes will not go to new roads or new industries. The government will simply pocket it to cover whatever programs they are "already" funding. So we were told to cut back on useage and we did and for that we will get a 50 percent tax increase? I can hardly wait to see what happens if we cut useage even more. Will we be required to work in the oil fields one week a year for free? If we discover an alternative fuel will we have to pay taxes to cover the loss revenue from the oil companies?
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Re: and conservation continues [boaz47] by gagrice
Jan 02, 2009 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 02, 2009 1:17 pm)

You are getting the picture. I expect a speech about the first of February telling US all we are going to have to tighten our belts. My question. Will the Feds and the states start cutting back on all the wasted services?

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