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RUG vs. E85 by dieselone
Nov 26, 2008 (6:03 am)
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I filled up yesterday for 1.59 RUG and E85 was $1.85. I generally fill up at the same BP gas station once a week and I haven't seen any one at the E85 pump in weeks.
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Re: RUG vs. E85 [dieselone] by gagrice
Nov 26, 2008 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 26, 2008 6:03 am)

With RUG selling at $1.59, E85 would have to sell for $1.19 just to break even.
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Re: Oil dropped under $55 today, down over $2 [steve_] by duke23
Nov 26, 2008 (9:23 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 20, 2008 8:14 am)

Steve wrote :
" Once they get it or raise taxes to get it they don't give it back.
  
Two examples pop into my head right off. The death tax was repealed, at least until 2011. (and Mass. just voted against eliminating the state income tax by about 2 to 1; go figure). "
 
By and large the first statement rings true. IIrc, The 9/10 of a cent gasoline tax and the tire tax were instituted during WWII as temporary taxes to reduce domestic consumption by which I can infer the war to end all wars must still be going on. Rather than repeal on the estate tax, it was deferred under the budget sunshine laws. Regarding 2010 , as Dustin Hoffman said in Little Big Men, it's a good day to die. Who knows what lies in store for 2011?
Repeal of stepped up cost basis ? I suspect it will be ugly. Trillion deficit this year and next. To misquote the belated Sen. Dirksen, (cough and preparing gravelly voice), a trillion here and a trillion there....
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Re: Oil dropped under $55 today, down over $2 [nippononly] by duke23
Nov 26, 2008 (9:51 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 21, 2008 7:25 pm)

Nippononly wrote :
"Sometimes paying a little more for something now can save a lot of money and heartache down the line.... "
Ask and ye shall receive. Granted the stock market is only a prognosticator for the economy but some statistics from 2008.
 
The bear market losses have only been exceeded by1929/1933 and 1937/1938.The Dow is having the second worst year since 1901.(only 1931 was worse ).This is the S&P's worst year since 1930. 1/3 of the S&P 500 could no longer qualify to be admitted to the S&P 500. Business Week points out that of 11,585 mutual funds covered by Morningstar, 11.584 are down on the year. The one that isn't down is not up but flat for the year. Of the S&P 500 all but ten are down for the year.$200/bbl, lmao. Darn economics being so sensible and all. And darn that consumer confidence. Yes you can . Good luck and good night.
 
Oh and the oil market doth love it's extremes.
(real world knowledge) Said with the upmost gracious smile and respect.
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Re: Oil dropped under $55 today, down over $2 [duke23] by snakeweasel
Nov 27, 2008 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: duke23 (Nov 26, 2008 9:23 pm)

The 9/10 of a cent gasoline tax and the tire tax were instituted during WWII as temporary taxes to reduce domestic consumption by which I can infer the war to end all wars must still be going on.
 
FYI WWI was the war to end all wars.
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Soooo by ny540i6
Nov 27, 2008 (1:41 pm)
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As gas prices increased we had all those stories of people running out of gas because they could not afford a fill up.... so tell me, with gas falling as sharply as it is , will we STILL see those folks out of gas? I mean, now the reason is: "I did not want to fill up, waiting for it to get cheaper!"
 
Look, I lived this - I was out of the country for more than a month, and filled my tank before I parked the car and headed for the airport - I filled up with $4 + gas... I want a refund.
 
On another note, I have a new appreciation for "working" pickups after driving (and using) one for that month.
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Re: Oil dropped under $55 today, down over $2 [snakeweasel] by duke23
Nov 27, 2008 (9:39 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Nov 27, 2008 6:08 am)

snakeweasel wrote:
"FYI WWI was the war to end all wars. "
I stand corrected. Thank's. Pity the victors insisted on inflicting injury. Penny wise. As per temporary taxes the rest stands. I'm tasting steak.
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Re: Oil dropped under $55 today, down over $2 [duke23] by snakeweasel
Nov 28, 2008 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: duke23 (Nov 27, 2008 9:39 pm)

I was also wondering where you got 9/10ths of a cent.
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National Average for Gas down to $1.86 by oldfarmer50
Nov 28, 2008 (1:26 pm)
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Is that insane or what?
 
Of course OPEC is looking to cut production again. If they do it will be cutting their own throats. World economy is shaky, push up fuel prices and what happens? Demand goes down even more.
 
The free market is a powerful thing.
 
BTW, at prices lower than $1.90 didn't larsb not only promise us all steak, but to serve it to us while wearing a tutu?
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Re: National Average for Gas down to $1.86 [oldfarmer50] by jipster
Nov 28, 2008 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 28, 2008 1:26 pm)

BTW, at prices lower than $1.90 didn't larsb not only promise us all steak, but to serve it to us while wearing a tutu?
 
tutu's have been shown to increase global CO2 output... not "green" enough. He should serve us wearing a grass skirt and a couple of coconuts.

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