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How does gas at $4 and higher impact you?

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Re: E85 [dieselone] by tankbeans
Nov 16, 2008 (6:01 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 16, 2008 5:48 pm)

I'm going to guess you're right. I wouldn't pay more to get less out of it. E85 has been the cheapest fuel up here since the fad jumped off the ground. Last I checked rug up here was around $1.79ish. Haven't filled in about a week so I'm not sure on that one, so E85 is around $1.40 depending on the gas station. Then again we have it at every gas station around here. I think part of it may be that there aren't as many stations with it where you live, making it slightly more expensive. You'd be able to tell me the truth about that. I'm just guessing. The last time I was near Illinois was 10 years ago, so I don't remember that much about it.
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Re: E85 [dieselone] by snakeweasel
Nov 16, 2008 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 16, 2008 5:48 pm)

Yeah but you live downstate, here in the Chicago land area where most people in IL live RUG is in the 2.10-2.20 range, E-85 is just under $2.00.
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Re: With reflection [dieselone] by steve_ HOST
Nov 16, 2008 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 16, 2008 5:57 pm)

I would like to see some hybrid features in every vehicle. Such as, auto engine start/stop at traffic light
 
That's a great idea. Probably wouldn't be too hard to implement or retrofit either. Beef up the starter and throw a couple of sensors in. You'd probably save tons more gas than those guys chasing the X Prize will ever save.
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Re: E85 [snakeweasel] by dieselone
Nov 16, 2008 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Nov 16, 2008 6:29 pm)

Yeah, I'm near Champaign.
 
I don't know how many stations have E85. I know the few stations I always go to offer it. E85 has always been cheaper here until the last few weeks. Maybe my locals stations don't sell a whole lot of it and still have 2-3 week old e85 in the tank, thus they haven't bought any at the lower prices. I don't know, but just a theory.
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Re: With reflection [boaz47] by slingshot80
Nov 16, 2008 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 16, 2008 1:28 pm)

My 75 Rabbit got 35 mpg, no a/c, manual, numerous problems with it!
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Re: National Average is Down to $2.09 [jipster] by duke23
Nov 16, 2008 (7:45 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Nov 16, 2008 5:48 pm)

jipster wrote :
"Yummy... we have a Ruth's Chris SteakHouse a couple miles down the road. That's about $75 a pop for a medium steak, $10 for a salad, baked potatos are extra... about $5, drinks another $10... then dessert, $10. Unless Al Gore shows up to help with the bill, larsb can plan on spending about $140 per person. "
Yum as well, go protein. A Ruth Chris here in Houston as well. $1.77 rug four days ago before the big drop, Shell station, NW Houston. I can smell $1.50. So it will be the 12 oz filet, baked potato and asparagus. Opec will try and cut 1m bbls/day on the 29th of Nov, Failing that a second try in Dec. But when you break the paradigm and are faced with reality, pump it out quick and sell for as much as you can get. Oh yeah and cheat on your quotas. The oil market doth love it's extremes. The larsb world tour should prove... nutritional.
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Re: With reflection [dieselone] by dave8697
Nov 17, 2008 (5:08 am)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 16, 2008 5:57 pm)

A friend of mine said his 2003 Jetta 1.8T costs $400 in maint and repairs every 3000 miles. He has had the car for over 60,000 miles. It was a year and a half old when he got it. He was proud of it's gas mileage.
 
Locally for me, Diesel is 2.89 and RUG is 1.83.
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Back to the pain percent by dave8697
Nov 17, 2008 (5:23 am)
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$1.83 is price as of yesterday
30 mile commute is less than a gallon each way or about $60 a month. It used to be $120 a month in 17 mpg 4X4. Commute used to be 47 miles each way when gas was $3.00. That was $310 a month so I drove other vehicles that get 23-28 mpg.
 
Still, if old pain index was 4.4%, new one is under 1%. Thats commute only, not total family driving. total family driving could be 2 times my commute now, and was 1.5 times commute when commute was 47 miles each way.
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Do I deserve the comfort of a large car? by dave8697
Nov 17, 2008 (5:40 am)
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At $310 a month to get to work, a large truck does not make sense.
The truck can haul a large load of large, heavy objects over a long distance. I used mine to move, to haul my son's go-cart places, to do work on properties in another state where I carried 1000 lbs of supplies and got 18.5 mpg on 87 octane with a V8. Two Yaris' couldnt have done the job.
 
My large car got 30 on a trip. 3600 lb empty car, 4 people, 20 gallons of gas, 400 lbs luggage in trunk.
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Re: With reflection [dave8697] by dieselone
Nov 17, 2008 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Nov 17, 2008 5:08 am)

A friend of mine said his 2003 Jetta 1.8T costs $400 in maint and repairs every 3000 miles. He has had the car for over 60,000 miles. It was a year and a half old when he got it. He was proud of it's gas mileage.
 
Fortunately, I never had any trouble with my Jetta TDI. But I only had it for one year and 35k miles, then I sold it for nearly what I paid for it, so I can't complain.
 
The reason for selling it was my wife got a company car and we still needed a minivan at the time. I couldn't justify keeping the jetta around, so I sold it.

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