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How does gas at $4 and higher impact you?

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#1441 of 2183 Re: topic reminder [steve_] by larsb Nov 07, 2008 (7:08 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Nov 07, 2008 7:02 am) Isn't the fact that the high speed rail will save California drivers a lot of gas money and "impact them" in regard to the miles they drive a valid point of discussion?   The rail is designed to save drivers from spending $2 or $3 or $5 a gallon on gas.
#1442 of 2183 Re: topic reminder [steve_] by nippononly Nov 07, 2008 (7:42 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Nov 07, 2008 7:02 am) $2.60 gas (the latest price I paid) has impacted me by enabling me to pay off my gas card for the first time since spring. I had been letting a balance ride during the $4.50 period, because my monthly bill had exceeded $350 several times. Now it's down into much more manageable territory, $200 or less.   I'm glad for that. Replies to this message: tankbeans (Nov 07, 2008 8:50 am) boaz47 (Nov 07, 2008 9:52 am) nippononly (Nov 07, 2008 1:48 pm)
#1443 of 2183 Re: topic reminder [nippononly] by tankbeans Nov 07, 2008 (8:50 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Nov 07, 2008 7:42 am) I just got my gas the other day for $1.93. I'm rather amused, without even knowing it I've gone about 380 miles since the 1st of the month. I don't know how I rack up so many miles; I don't go anywhere, at least that's what I thought.   I was able to fill my tank from just under half the other day for $22 and then a couple days after that I was able to fill 8.9 gallons for $17ish.   It's kind of nice.
#1444 of 2183 Re: topic reminder [steve_] by grbeck Nov 07, 2008 (8:54 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Nov 07, 2008 7:02 am) Well, if gas goes down in price, fewer people will be inclined to take the train.   But all is not lost for high-speed rail fans in California. Farmers can load the empty passenger trains up with chickens, cows, pigs, etc., and allow them to roam freely in the train, thus meeting the requirements of Proposition 2. Maybe they can even have porters serve the animals their feed...   Farm animals would thus not be confined, and even expand their sight-seeing opportunities, too. The rail lines would be ensured a steady stream of passengers. Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 07, 2008 8:58 am) oldfarmer50 (Nov 08, 2008 3:32 am)
#1445 of 2183 Re: topic reminder [grbeck] by gagrice Nov 07, 2008 (8:58 am)
Replying to: grbeck (Nov 07, 2008 8:54 am) You have pegged the insanity of California to a T.
#1446 of 2183 Re: topic reminder [nippononly] by boaz47 Nov 07, 2008 (9:52 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Nov 07, 2008 7:42 am) I never realized how far you had to drive my friend. I can see why some of our perspectives on what we need in a car are so different. Considering the car you drive you are a long distance commuter. Still when gas was about $4.00 I could clearly see the need for mass transit in my area. One day some friends and I decided to take the metro rail from san Bernardino to LA to spend the day. It was such a stress free ride that I thought back to the days when I had to commute that same distance. If we would have had something like the metro rail going to where I worked when I was making that commute I would have jumped on it in a minute.   Like anyone else I would like it if my Tahoe got 20+ MPG and that I could have a city car that got 60+ even if Gas was $1.50 and for sure if it is $4.00. But we need to get mass transit going in all of our states if we are going to have any "real" lasting effect on our energy useage in this country.   I can remember many times being in these forums and hearing people complain how fuel was just too cheap in the US. They even suggested that the solution to our transportation problems would be higher fuel prices. But there is always a cause and effect and even if I drove less, which I do, the increased cost of transporting goods has effected me even more than the cost of fuel for my car. Replies to this message: nippononly (Nov 07, 2008 1:48 pm)
#1447 of 2183 Re: topic reminder [boaz47] by nippononly Nov 07, 2008 (1:48 pm)
Replying to: boaz47 (Nov 07, 2008 9:52 am) But there is always a cause and effect and even if I drove less, which I do, the increased cost of transporting goods has effected me even more than the cost of fuel for my car.   Yes, I have noticed a lot of that too. A report on the news last night said food price increases have outstripped inflation for the second or third (I forget which) year in a row this year and are expected to increase even more steeply in 2009. I notice that just as much as I notice gas prices. The reasons they gave included increasingly expensive animal feed and transport costs, both of which are highly dependent on the cost of diesel.
#1448 of 2183 Re: No more worries about $4 gas in CA [gagrice] by explorerx4 Nov 07, 2008 (4:37 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 06, 2008 8:06 pm) my 16 year old daughter is very excited that law passed. she said 'you can have chicken or cow. i just want it to be a happy chicken or cow.' i told her it means that industry will just leave california and move elsewhere. she countered,as she is well known to do, that she hopes it is start and will move outward from there. anyways gas under $2.20 at more and more stations. Replies to this message: duke23 (Nov 07, 2008 5:03 pm)
#1449 of 2183 Re: No more worries about $4 gas in CA [explorerx4] by duke23 Nov 07, 2008 (5:03 pm)
Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 07, 2008 4:37 pm) explorerx4 wrote: " my 16 year old daughter is very excited that law passed. she said 'you can have chicken or cow. i just want it to be a happy chicken or cow." Ahh the wisdom of youth, never any consequences. Isn't it wonderful dad? But over the next six years a wonderful transformation occurs where your intelligence and wisdom will increase by a factor of fifty. My congratulations on your learning so much over the next six years. That first job, apt,checkbook. The trade-offs, If I spend it on pizza and concerts then I can't pay my rent. A wonderful period. Now the next two years hang in there.   Paid $1.98 for rug today. We brew it here so it tends to be cheaper. On the oth we are neck and neck with LA for Smog. When the lights go down the refineries turn the valve to the right. Fifty dollar oil possible very soon. Opec Schmopec, recessions really destroy paradigms. The oil market doth love it's extremes.
#1450 of 2183 Re: topic reminder [grbeck] by oldfarmer50 Nov 08, 2008 (3:32 am)
Replying to: grbeck (Nov 07, 2008 8:54 am) "...Farm animals would thus not be confined..."   And, as everyone knows, well-traveled happy animals taste better when you eat them.

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