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Re: The Case for rugged SUVs in the USA [kdhspyder] by gagrice
Oct 16, 2008 (3:06 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 16, 2008 2:54 pm)

The first dealer Mossy has 28 RAV4s on their lot. 11 of them are still 2008 models. That looks like lack of sales not lack of inventory. Same for the Prius. They are sitting on 17 Prius. They are even putting money on the hood of the Prius, $2500 or 0% financing.
 
http://www.mossytoyota.com/specials/new.htm
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Re: The good, the bad, the ugly. [lemko] by oldfarmer50
Oct 16, 2008 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Oct 16, 2008 12:18 pm)

"...Harry the Hungry? It's more like Feddie the Freeloader!..."
 
But who will save us from Eddie the Eco Terrorist? If Al Gore has his way you'll be riding that bike on a treadmill to power his mansion.
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Re: The Case for rugged SUVs in the USA [gagrice] by kdhspyder
Oct 16, 2008 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 16, 2008 3:06 pm)

The 0% does not apply to the Prius.. It's on 11 specific models but none of the hybrids - for now.
 
The $2500 discount? That's a new and entirely different story since the Credit Meltdown. It's not from Toyota, it's dealer specific. Every auto retailer is in dire straits today. I'd expect a 20-50% reduction in total buying across the board for the next 6 months, Buyers right now are just sitting on their hands. I'd expect with annual sales at the 13 million unit rate that as many as 40-50% of the domestic stores will close their doors and Toy/Honda will each be down 20+%.
 
Every store in our area is running skinny with layoffs in all salaried positions. Former salaried positions are being offered positions on the floor ( sell or starve ) or out the door.
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Re: The Case for rugged SUVs in the USA [kdhspyder] by gagrice
Oct 16, 2008 (4:49 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 16, 2008 3:31 pm)

Keeping the old beater with the price of gas falling is the smart move. Though you can make some deals. For me $2500 discount wouldn't keep me in the office 5 minutes on Any new car. I want them to bleed on the showroom floor. This recession is long overdue. Dropping the interest to keep the economy rolling was not a wise Greenspan move. I guess in 2001 it seemed like a good idea. If all the Big 3 survive it will be a miracle.
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Re: The Case for rugged SUVs in the USA [kdhspyder] by duke23
Oct 16, 2008 (6:17 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 16, 2008 2:54 pm)

kdyhspyder wrote:
"Everytime you bring these figures up I will continue to correct the erroneous conclusion."
 
I know you , meant well, being fuel efficient, versus wasteful . Thanks, sincerely for the mea culpa but here is how the real world works.
It was never supply vs demand as the demand was gamed., They are running for the hills. Paradigm = busted . I'm glad you drive a Prius.
You drive some serious miles and even at the coming low levels it will make sense. Who does Chin-India sell to ? While we were not in global recession in the 1st half of this year we are now. Time to change the name of this forum, Oh did I say that before I quote yet once more, oil doth love it extremes. g:, I couldn't agree more , post on sir.
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Re: The Case for rugged SUVs in the USA [gagrice] by boaz47
Oct 16, 2008 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 16, 2008 4:49 pm)

Not often do you and I agree. Or maybe we do it is just the disagreements are more memorable. But in this case I agree. This melt down was long over due.
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I hope it lasts by boaz47
Oct 17, 2008 (4:42 pm)
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I went sight seeing in Manitou Springs and Old Colorado Springs. We have been driving around all week on $3.39 gas and decided I should fill up so we don't have to when we leave Colorado after this weekend. $2.96 and less that $48 to fill my tank. It seems as if the Gas crisis is caused more by speculation than I thought. I hope we remember this in the future.
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boaz by michaell
Oct 18, 2008 (11:01 am)
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Not sure how you're heading home from Colorado, but gas in Utah is more expensive than it is in Colorado.
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Hope you saw Garden of the Gods and Seven Veils Falls while you were in the Springs. You sure picked a good time of year to come visit!
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Re: boaz [michaell] by boaz47
Oct 18, 2008 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: michaell (Oct 18, 2008 11:01 am)

No, we are leaving Colorado and heading for Santa Fe. We will send part of the next day at Sky City and then move on to Gallup. The next day it will be Kingman and then home. It might rain Monday so we decided to take 40 and drop below the weather a bit. We paid about $3.40 in Las Vegas New Mexico on the way to Colorado. The weather has been nice.
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$3 gas and does anyone care? by lemko
Oct 18, 2008 (3:19 pm)
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Gut-wrenching declines in the stock market, a financial panic that some have compared to the Great Depression and the realization that the U.S. may be headed to its worst recession in over a generation have trumped what should otherwise be good news: The return of $3-a-gallon gas.
 
Better yet, with 401(k) statements arriving in the mail and families worried about keeping their homes, has anyone even noticed?
 
A gallon of regular gasoline fell .049 cents overnight to a new national average of $2.991, according to auto club AAA, the Oil Price Information Service and Wright Express. Prices have not been below $3 nationally since Feb. 16.
 
Saturday's price is slightly above the national average price of $2.81 a year ago, but 27 percent lower than the all-time high of $4.114 reached July 17. Before Saturday, gas prices already were below $3 in 23 states, according to AAA.

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