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Re: What is it worth [kernick] by gagrice
Oct 15, 2008 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Oct 15, 2008 7:11 am)

You are absolutely correct. It is all cyclical. I ran into a guy at Lowes. He had the cleanest 1984 Mitsubishi PU truck. In big letters on the side it said Turbo Diesel. So I talked to him. He bought it new because of the price of gas in 1983. It now has 270k+ miles and still going strong. He just happen to span the cycles. He told me they built that model from 1983-85. Then gas prices started down and folks went for the 0-60 MPH rather than the high MPG. It will happen again. It is human nature. When gas gets back in the low $2 range this fall you will see an upsurge in large vehicles. No one really wants to ride around in a Yugo unless they are a masochist.
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Re: Just topped off at $2.65 [gagrice] by larsb
Oct 15, 2008 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 15, 2008 6:31 am)

Gary "gives up"
 
Look at that post from March. You gave up your $2 pipe dream.
 
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Re: Just topped off at $2.65 [larsb] by gagrice
Oct 15, 2008 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 15, 2008 7:28 am)

Weak moment. I got the faith back. I did not give completely up. I did say it was bleak. Someone just posted $2.58 in Ohio. Dropping like a rock. Hope you shorted oil futures.
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Re: Just topped off at $2.65 [larsb] by oldfarmer50
Oct 15, 2008 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 15, 2008 6:04 am)

"...I never made any predictions..."
 
Post #65--July, 16 2008 (3:23 pm). larsb wrote:
 
    "The average USA price today rose to another ALL - TIME HIGH of $4.114. What in the WORLD could happen to make gas lose $1.114 a gallon in the next 120 days? It would require an oil price drop of at least 25% by September and have oil not go back up.
    And demand would have to DROP significantly worldwide.
    Be specific in what you think could happen to make it drop 27% in 120 days!!!"
 
That was your response to a poster who predicted $3 gas by November. Sounded like a prediction of what would NOT happen but still a prediction.
 
BTW, oil is down to about $75 today. ( That's down 49% in 97 days)
 
COME ON $2 GAS!
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Re: Just topped off at $2.65 [oldfarmer50] by larsb
Oct 15, 2008 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Oct 15, 2008 7:40 am)

Was not a prediction on oil prices. Was a statement that said "anything that would make gas drop $1.114 a gallon would require an oil drop of 25%."
 
( By the way - the "$3 gas by November" guy is still going to be wrong. Gas price would have to drop about 30 cents in the next 17 days. )
 
Statements are not necessarily predictions. I will prelude any prediction I make with "I PREDICT...."
 
I predicted a long time ago that $2 gas as a USA Average (which is the metric that is commonly used) is as gone as the 5 cent candy bar.
 
And I'm sticking with that...........
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Re: Just topped off at $2.65 [larsb] by kernick
Oct 15, 2008 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 15, 2008 7:46 am)

Statements are not necessarily predictions. I will prelude any prediction I make with "I PREDICT...."
 
We didn't realize we had to read your posts like a legal agreement If you don't put "I Predict", what are the statements - hearsay, assumption, your wishes? But it is not you who were so insistent on gas prices would stay high.
 
I think it was kdh, who insisted that he knew the U.S. and the rest of the world economies would simply pay $0.50/gal more per year. To which I kept saying that people especially in the developing world could not pay these sorts of increases based on their incomes.
 
News alert !! No bubble! - whether Internet stocks, housing prices, or skyrocketing oil prices is sustainable!
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Re: Just topped off at $2.65 [kernick] by larsb
Oct 15, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Oct 15, 2008 8:31 am)

Just part of the dynamic of forums like this.
 
If you don't specify, people ASSUME things about what you mean.
 
To make oneself as clear as possible, specificity is required.....
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My vehicle choices... by lemko
Oct 15, 2008 (8:53 am)
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...have remained pretty consistant regardless of the cost of fuel - I always prefered a four door full-sized domestic sedan. The only concession I made this time is that I mostly drive a V-6 sedan versus a V-8.
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Just an outsider perspective by mivadar
Oct 15, 2008 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Oct 15, 2008 8:53 am)

Random questions/comments from Europe (moving to the USA soon, at least temporarily) ...
 
First comment is that over here 1 US gallon of gas costs 8 USD at the moment, and the only reason it went up is because the dollar went down compared to the Euro (used to be 6-ish USD before the exchange rate fell).
 
I'm actually a bit, well, intimidated by US cars.
 
The normal European city/town car would be something like a Toyota Yaris, a family car would be more along the size of the Toyota Corolla.
(The more commonly seen small European makes like the Peugeot 207 don't seem to be around in the US much.)
 
I have no idea why I would want a bigger car, and I'm still not completely comfortable getting used to driving (parking / turning with, etc.) anything bigger.
I don't actually personally know anyone who owns a car that does less than 30-35 mpg (US).
 
I'm actually idly wondering why this "big car" culture developed in the US - especially given the distances, fuel economy does make a difference ...
 
Two other random things I was wondering about ...
 
I've seen on Edmunds some "fuel saving" advice, including not to fill 87 octane fuel in a car that needs 91 ...
I haven't seen fuel below 95 octane in Europe for probably 15 years - and I don't mean Monte Carlo, I mean Romania, the shadowy depths of poor Eastern Europe ... What is normal gas in the US?
 
The second thing I was wondering about is speed limits ...
Most US cars are a few sizes bigger and more powerful than the ones here - the highways are good quality and wide (been over the pond a few times already, seen and marvelled) ...
But the "normal" speed limit on the highways is around 65 mph - here that's the speed limit on country roads outside towns ... highways have at least 80 mph if they have a limit at all.
Again I wonder, because distances in the US are much bigger - here that 10% doesn't make a difference ... there it does.
Just curious if it has any particular technical reason ...
 
Anyway - good luck to everyone surviving the price hike, and join you soon on the other side ...
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Re: Just an outsider perspective [mivadar] by kdhspyder
Oct 15, 2008 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: mivadar (Oct 15, 2008 12:09 pm)

Good questions and welcome ( soon ).
 
The reason for the big vehicles is that here fuel has been dirt cheap until recently. With available income about the same one could afford 'more vehicle' here because the price of fuel was a lot lower then in Europe. Also because of the wide open spaces a larger more comfortable ride became the norm. It was nothing for NY'ers to choose to drive to Florida for vacation ( 1900 km ) since fuel was so cheap. That's roughly the distance from Helsinki to Milano.
 
Compact vehicles like the Corolla and Civic are now making a huge step forward in the mind of the public simply because they do get 30-40 mpg day in and day out.
 
Here in NA the standard fuel is 87 Octane. All the modern fuel efficient vehicles are set up to use only 87. As regards speed limits 65 - 85 mph is the normal range of speeds on the Interstate System.

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