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looks like by nippononly
Oct 30, 2009 (5:41 pm)
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Christmas sales are going to suffer because of gas prices...
 
Gas prices chugging higher as holidays near
Will a socking at the pump mean stockings are lighter this year?

 
NEW YORK (AP) -- Americans are paying more for gasoline than they did last year as the holidays approached -- billions of dollars that could go to books, clothes and Barbie dolls instead being spent at the pump.
 
Gas averaged nearly $2.70 a gallon Friday, the highest of the year -- adding bad news to an already fragile economy and making it even less likely that people will spend their way out of the recession.
 
From last November to January, the average price was $1.86. Even if prices average $2.50 per gallon during the same period this year, Americans will pay an extra $26.6 billion for gas, said Tom Kloza, chief oil analyst at Oil Price Information Service.
 
.....And when a gallon of gas runs from $2.50 to $3, people begin to notice, energy experts say.
 
People make a "clear emotional connection" between the price of gas and how much they spend on other things, said Wendy Liebmann, who monitors shopping habits through her company WSL Strategic Retail.
 
"It nibbles out of our paycheck, and there's nothing we can do about it," Liebmann said. "We've got to get the kids to school. We've got to get to work if we're lucky enough to have a job."
 
As gas prices soared from 2006 to 2008, people became increasingly tightfisted, a survey by WSL found. When gas peaked above $4 a gallon in July 2008, more than two-thirds said they had cut back on other spending so they could still use their cars.
 
Prices today are a far cry from the peak. Crude oil, which neared $150 per barrel last year, is trading at about $80 now. But drivers are feeling the pain nonetheless.
 
......Gas prices are rising even as Americans drive much less than they did before the recession hit, and as the country sits on massive petroleum supplies. A weak dollar is making fuel more expensive.
 
Oil is bought and sold primarily in dollars. When the dollar falls, investors holding euros, for example, can buy more crude with less. And they have.
 
Since March 2, the value of the dollar has fallen 18 percent against the euro. In that same period, a barrel of oil has doubled in price, to around $80. Pump prices have gone along for the ride.
 
Gas prices have risen 17 days in a row, hitting a national average of $2.695 per gallon Friday, according to auto club AAA, Wright Express and Oil Price Information Service. The last time gas cost close to that was June, during the summer driving season.
 
And prices will probably stay high because oil companies have become much more conservative about producing fuel after getting burned by the dramatic fall in energy prices last year.
 
Spending $40 to $50 every time you fill up your tank has a domino effect, said Amy Jaffe a fellow at the James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy at Rice University.
 
"That's a new pair of jeans. I'm making a decision between filling my tank and buying a new pair of jeans," Jaffe said. "When we get to that point, you can expect that to hurt the economy."

 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Gas-prices-chugging-higher-as-apf-873053294.html?x- =0
 
I am STILL paying what I was in the height of June and July, and unlike other parts of the country the price never went down here in NorCal - currently a hair over $3.
 
$4.50 will be back next summer I guess. There is going to be a lot more space on the roads pretty soon.....
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Re: looks like [nippononly] by gagrice
Oct 30, 2009 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 30, 2009 5:41 pm)

Costco is holding at $2.75 for RUG. Most name brands are right at $3 per gallon. On my 5687 mile trip I had figured on 15 MPG at $3 per gallon. So I am happy that I averaged 18 MPG and the average price was $2.33 per gallon $400 less than expected. Same for motels. about $25 per night less than I anticipated. West Coast has the worst prices. All wasted on taxes. With little to show in the way of road improvements. Think about the Bay Bridge and the money wasted there.
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Re: looks like [nippononly] by lemko
Nov 03, 2009 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 30, 2009 5:41 pm)

There is going to be a lot more space on the roads pretty soon.....
 
Yeah, but the sidewalks are going to be a lot more crowded with pedestrians! Oh well, there's always public transportation! Oops, maybe not! SEPTA just went on strike this morning!
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Re: looks like [lemko] by nippononly
Nov 03, 2009 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 03, 2009 5:47 am)

There's always Segway.
 
Watched a Suburban owner put $80 worth of gas in their truck yesterday, and thought to myself "$80?? In November??"
 
I just assumed we would see another year of sub-$3 winter gas, what with the recession and all the unemployment. But I guess not.
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Re: looks like [nippononly] by lemko
Nov 03, 2009 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 03, 2009 7:18 am)

I've already seen Sunoco Ultra at $3.15 in the suburbs. Looks like we'll have even more recession and unenmployment to go with that $3+ gas. Merry Xmas!!!
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Re: looks like [lemko] by dieselone
Nov 03, 2009 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 03, 2009 7:55 am)

I filled the Expedition up today with regular for 2.65/gal and it cost $51 or so and I was around 1/4 tank on the guage. Not a big deal yet. I still haven't forgotten the $100 fill ups I had in the old Suburban, I won't bring up the boat. I still remember filling it up before storage last October and I paid $4.40/gal for premium.
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Re: looks like [dieselone] by explorerx4
Nov 04, 2009 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 03, 2009 12:42 pm)

last saturday, i filled up the kid's explorer. 18.6 gallons for about $52. good news, it was over 2 weeks since the last fill up. bad news, they only drove 234 miles between fill ups. winter gas really kills your mileage.
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Re: looks like [explorerx4] by andre1969
Nov 04, 2009 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 04, 2009 3:39 pm)

It's been awhile now since I've gotten gas, but I've got the Intrepid, Silverado, and LeMans all run down kinda low, so I have a feeling they're all going to hit me in rapid succession. I think 87 octane is around $2.67/gal around here now, while 93 is around $2.97.
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Re: looks like [andre1969] by explorerx4
Nov 05, 2009 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 04, 2009 4:21 pm)

better fill something up before it gets too close the thanksgiving.
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Re: looks like [explorerx4] by andre1969
Nov 05, 2009 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 05, 2009 2:56 pm)

Just filled up the truck today. Gas prices actually came down a bit. $2.639 for 87, $2.939 for 93, which the Silverado needs unless I want to hear valve clatter. Planning on filling up the Intrepid tomorrow morning.

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