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Toyota Highland Hybrid Steering and Suspension Questions

28 messages,  Last post on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:05 AM

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Re: 2006 Highland Hybrid/Lexus RX400h power steering failures [upstateny5] by wwest
Dec 26, 2008 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: upstateny5 (Dec 26, 2008 8:37 am)

"...violent shaking.."
 
There are posts here and there on the internet indicating that the torque tube can be "over-twisted" temporarily or in at least one case permanently. Over-twisting puts the synchro outputs out of phase and that apparently results in the electric power stearing actually providing power assist in intermittent opposition to your own stearing wheel inputs.
 
The one permanent torque tube over-twist resulted in HARD manual forces being applied to the stearing wheel with the electric system having previously failed and the need arose requiring a HARD stearing application.
 
So be careful just how HARD you force the stearing wheel if you have electric power stearing assist.
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2006 HH Steering Rack by charlesp
Feb 09, 2009 (9:57 am)
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Just to let you all know, had interesting experience this past Friday 2/6/09. As I have said elsewhere went to Phoenix AZ area to look at 2006HH with hopes to buy it and gracefully retire my 1993 Toyota Camry wagon w/ 220K miles. Just chicken enough to call on a friend to drive me there in his new BMW convertible and follow me back -- just in case.
 
For sale at $19K was one owner, apparently gently used, 3-1/2 yr old 2006HH Ltd with 50K mi on odo. Car had 50KMi service just done at Toytoa and new battery installed.
 
I prearranged a used-car inspection service at another Toyota dealer in Mesa, AZ -- about a 15 mile city street and freeway drive -- so I could see how the car drove and have it inspected by a stranger to the seller. Noted that steering feel was exceedingly light. Car went where pointed, but just no feedback from the road. Not at all Tyota-like.
 
To make story short, arrived at 10:30am for scheduled appointment and met my service writer who didn't know me from Adam, at a company I had never been to before (Earnhardt Toyota) and at one I would likely never visit again since it sat 400 miles from home.
 
First thing he did was check vin, mumble something about a steering recall, check the computer and tell me that Toyota has a recall on steering rack on certain HH and this one was included in that recall. Estimated 6hr labor and Toyota was supposedly footing a $1500 labor bill plus parts and part of the recall was a complete alignment when work was done.
 
He said that now they had their hands on the car, it couldn't leave without the work being completed, and the old removed steering mechanism had to be destroyed so it didn't make it to the used part market.
 
In response to my comment I had to go back to Las Vegas that afternoon, he had a rush service started -- supposedly two Toyota Master Mechanics to work on the car -- and 2 1/2 hrs later I had the car back, newly aligned and they even completed the used-car inspection I originally ordered.
 
Greatest service experience I have had from a Toyota dealership in I don't know when.
 
If you live near Phoenix AZ (Mesa) I don't thinkyou'll go wrong at Earnhardt Toyota.
 
Drove back to Las Vegas that afternoon over a combination of Freeway, and two to four lane country roads at speeds ranging from 35 to 80 and at the end of the 351 mile trip, averaged 28mpg paying no particular attention to whether I was using the hybrid technology to its optimum or not.
 
I think I made a great choice.
 
Chuck
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Re: 2006 HH Steering Rack [charlesp] by lcarr8522
Feb 09, 2009 (4:25 pm)
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Replying to: charlesp (Feb 09, 2009 9:57 am)

Wow! That is the first time I've heard anything about any kind of recall on the 2006 HH. I'll go back to digging some more. I still have my repair paperwork so maybe I'll see what I can do about getting some kind of refund. I know that's probably a pipe dream but I suppose it never hurts to try.
I'm glad it all worked out for you. Enjoy your HH. Other than this one expensive issue I've thoroughly enjoyed mine.
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Re: 2006 HH Steering Rack [lcarr8522] by charlesp
Feb 10, 2009 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: lcarr8522 (Feb 09, 2009 4:25 pm)

You're as surprised as I was. Still haven't found any other references anywhere. Thought I had my inspection and warranty repair paperwork with me, but don't. I'll check it tonight and see if a particular code or program info is listed and let you know what I find.
 
Chuck
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Re: 2006 HH Steering Rack [charlesp] by upstateny5
Feb 10, 2009 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: charlesp (Feb 10, 2009 10:47 am)

I received the recall notice - I traded my vehicle in last August after the failure. The notice reads "Special Service Cam[paign 90A" - Certain 2006 - 2007 Highlander HV and 2007 Camry HV Electric Power Steering Link (EPS) Assembly Replacement.
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Re: 2006 HH Steering Rack [upstateny5] by lcarr8522
Feb 10, 2009 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: upstateny5 (Feb 10, 2009 12:07 pm)

Interesting...thanks for the info.
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Wheel Alignment by sbehnke
Mar 02, 2007 (11:12 am)
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First time poster so be kind!
We just bought a 2006 HH Limited, AWD. During the test drive we noticed it pulled to the right just a little. The dealer gave us a "We Owe" ticket. However it is a Chevy dealer, not Toyota. I want to know if there are any concerns on a wheel alignment for a hybrid vs. non-hybrid. Are we better off going to a Toyota dealer? Would like to stay at the Checy dealer for this repair cause they'll do it for free.
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Re: Wheel Alignment [sbehnke] by wvgasguy
Mar 06, 2009 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: sbehnke (Mar 02, 2007 11:12 am)

I'd always go to the free dealer first to see if they solve the problem. If its a simple alignment then any shop should be able to do that.
 
If that doesn't solve it I might want to have the Toyota dealer see what else might be wrong. I'm guessing it's just alignment which should probably be performed annually anyway.
 
Oh, get it done soon as a bad alignment won't take long to ruin a set of tires and that cost would be yours.
#25 of 28
Re: Wheel Alignment [sbehnke] by wwest
Mar 09, 2009 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: sbehnke (Mar 02, 2007 11:12 am)

The regular HL uses hydraulics for power stearing whereas the HH uses electric. The electrics are not as "positive"/firm as is the hydraulics.

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