Last post on Feb 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM
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Mazda CX-9, Honda Pilot, Toyota Highlander, Car Comparisons, SUV
#534 of 549 Re: If CX-9 is so great, how come.. [aviboy97]
Jul 07, 2011 (6:00 am)
I can’t speak for other areas but at least around where I live their dealer network is also part of the problem for Mazda. For one, they have fewer dealership around by far than Toyota or Honda which factors into both convenience once your servicing your vehicle, consumer choice, if you don’t have a good experience with a particular local dealer, and competitive pricing when shopping. In the same range of a 12 mile radius where I can chose from 4 Honda or Toyota dealers there is 1 Mazda dealer and it is a small, shabby dealership in a building that looks like it hasn’t been touched since the 1970’s, and not in a direction I would ever have reason to travel unless going to the dealership. And three years ago I went to the trouble to specifically negotiate for all three vehicles mentioned here – Pilot, Highlander, CX-9 – to see what kind of pricing I could get in comparison to the “real world” pricing posts I was reading here and other online tools. With Honda I quickly had multiple offers within the range of the deals I was reading online. The local Toyota dealerships were all over the map with at least one being as competitive as online deals and at least one being ridiculously high. But I only had one local choice for Mazda and they were not very competitive. Consequently I was able to get a fully loaded Pilot Touring for thousands less than the comparably equipped CX-9. In the end price wasn’t my only deciding factor. But the lack of dealer options and the un-impressiveness of the Mazda dealer definitely was a huge check against it. That combined with the Nav system collectively probably killed it for me.
#535 of 549 Re: If CX-9 is so great, how come.. [aviboy97]
Jul 07, 2011 (12:52 pm)
Mazda's are great vehicles. The lack of marketing can be viewed in many different ways depending on personal opinions. My take is that marketing money goes into engineering/design making Mazda's (IMHO) one of the best handling non-luxury vehicles. This doesn't mean I agree with the minimal or lack of marketing for their line-up because I think that if more people ventured outside of the norm (Honda, Toyota) square they would realize what an awesome ride these Mazda's provide. I kid you not, my very first Mazda was a 2006 Mazda5 "Micro-van" and that little thing was fun to drive and handled better then my 2003 Honda Accord coupe sitting on Tokico shocks and Eibach springs. I was so surprised at how agile and precise that little wagon was compared to my Accord and that was on stock suspension brought to you by Mazda.
Anyway, if Mazda can spend a little more resources on marketing and their dealer network and customer service but still remain true to their "Zoom-Zoom" motto like they have been doing so. I bet more people would make the change and never look back at Honda and Toyota.
#536 of 549 Highlander vs Mazda CX 9
Nov 11, 2012 (7:18 pm)
After taking the Highlander and CX 9 for a test drive today I was leaning towards the Highlander until reading this thread lol. I know this is an old thread, just curious if anything has changed on the Highlander 's braking/ turning radius ?
What the CX 9 has going for it is the price, I can get a fully loaded Grand Touring for 35k which I think is a good price. ( Since I'm a Costco member we think might get it down to 34).
I wouldn't say I noticed a huge differnce in the turning radius.
The Toyota seemed like it had higher end seats compared to CX 9. As my husband said, it felt like a higher end car, compared to the CX 9. Also, I guess we the minority that thinks the Highlander looks better than the CX 9.
#537 of 549 Re: Highlander vs Mazda CX 9 [jillsky]
Nov 12, 2012 (2:55 pm)
Also, I guess we the minority that thinks the Highlander looks better than the CX 9.
Clearly, you haven't seen the new updated 2013 CX-9...google it under images....
#538 of 549 Re: Highlander vs Mazda CX 9 [davicho]
Nov 12, 2012 (7:56 pm)
I just read the 2013 will be slightly bigger, and of course other design changes too. Also they are speculating Mazda is dropping the v6, in favor of a 4 cylinder .
My husband and I are now convinced the 2012 cx 9 is the way to go. I 'm loving the way it handles turns, and seems like a great transition from my Subaru Outback (cx 9 does drive like a car!)
The red one I have my eye on is beautiful. I want to stick to the 2012, sounds like too many changes to the 2013. Also the 2012 will fit better in our garage...highlander is a little too big. Anyway, after driving the CX 9 again I absolutely love it
#539 of 549 Re: Highlander vs Mazda CX 9 [jillsky]
Nov 14, 2012 (11:44 am)
Where did you read the specs for the 2013?
I've been trying to get info about the car and the release date. Of course the dealers have been of no help in getting that info.
#540 of 549 Re: Highlander vs Mazda CX 9 [samny1]
Nov 14, 2012 (5:58 pm)
Ok my bad Stephen, they are keeping the v6 and some changes but it all looks really good- believe no major design changes. Everything is on mazda's website including pricing. Good luck!
#541 of 549 Re: Highlander vs Mazda CX 9 [jillsky]
Nov 15, 2012 (7:33 am)
This is of much help. I suppose MPG will be about the same as the 2012?
#542 of 549 Re: Highlander vs Mazda CX 9 [jillsky]
Nov 15, 2012 (10:45 am)
The front end of 2012 CX 9 has been criticized for its silly grin and to many is not the most attractive face around. If that doesn't bother you, then 2012 is fine, if it does then I would wait for 2013 CX 9.
The front end of 2013 CX 9 has been completely re-designed and is significantly better looking than 2012 (IMHO of course). The silly grin and that artificial chrome bar (the brace) in the middle of the grill of 2012 are now gone.
Other than the front end, there is really not much change.
#543 of 549 Re: Highlander vs Mazda CX 9 [cannga]
Nov 15, 2012 (1:34 pm)
I am not looking to buy a CX-9 anytime soon. I had posted my opinion about the CX-9 looking better (generally since 2007-2012) then the Highlander...of course my opinion is subjective and also biased.
I agree with you on the "silly grin" design...its un-tasteful. Luckily, I have escaped the silly grin with the two Mazdas we own. Our (wife's) 2007 Galaxy Gray CX-9 Touring looks very nice and sophisticated and our (mine) 2006 Whitewater Pearl Mazda5 Touring 5-MT is nice and sporty...both which were pre-grin face design.