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Mazda CX-9, Honda Pilot, Toyota Highlander, Car Comparisons, SUV
#496 of 549 Re: 2011 Mazda CX-9 fuel economy [aviboy97]
Aug 09, 2010 (10:02 am)
Since fuel efficiency is based on a number of factors it would be nice to know what Mazda changed to achieve better fuel efficiency. Not sure if a couple of MPG here and there tilts a buying decision, but good to see that Mazda is doing something about it.
#497 of 549 Re: 2011 Mazda CX-9 fuel economy [aviboy97]
Aug 09, 2010 (1:59 pm)
I am also interested in knowing what Mazda did to raise MPG of 2011 models.
The 2007 CX9s have 3.5L engines. Owners have reported much better MPG than later models with 3.7L variants. For 3.7L engines, Mazda revised the intake manifold and programming. Interesting to know what Mazda does this time for 2011.
If the 2011 has the DI (direct injection) engine, it would be a very nice improvement to the CX9s, not just MPG, but for torque and horsepower. One can always hope...
#498 of 549 Re: 2011 Mazda CX-9 fuel economy [ceric]
Aug 09, 2010 (4:27 pm)
As far as I know, no DI.
#499 of 549 If CX-9 is so great, how come..
Jun 15, 2011 (12:58 pm)
I can't see any on Northern California roads.
I started researching SUVs only recently. I went to blogs, ranking, reviews. It seems CX-9 wins hands down in the category of Toyota Highlander, Pilot, and Escape (throw MDX in the mix if you like).
With CX-9 winning so comfortable, I presumed they would be all over the roads, parking lots. Not so, I could hardly find a few. The SUV space here is dominated predominantly by Highlander and Escape, with good no of Pilots and MDX's. CX-9'sare so out of the picture that it begs the question, why the discrepancy..There must be some reason fro the shall we say poor sales of Mazda CX-9s. Anyone care to enlighten me.
#500 of 549 Re: If CX-9 is so great, how come.. [sixth_gear]
Jun 15, 2011 (1:53 pm)
Because it is Mazda and not Toyota or Honda. Having said that I do see quite a few cx9s here in SoCal..
#501 of 549 Re: If CX-9 is so great, how come.. [sixth_gear]
Jun 15, 2011 (2:10 pm)
The reality is that Highlander is very competitive vehicle and gets on average 2MPG better fuel economy then CX9 which is major plus with today's gas prices. I'm not going to go over advantages or shortcomings since this is endless topic. Make sure that you test drive one before making any decisions. I live in Ohio and noticed that Highlanders almost never have been advertized by the Toyota dealers in the auto section of the local paper, that makes me believe that they do sell like a hot cakes. I got my base AWD 2008 model with 3 row seats back in 2007 for $26K+ tax and recently friend of mine bough used 2008 FWD with 2 row seats and 25000 miles for $24.5K and considers himself lucky.
#502 of 549 Re: If CX-9 is so great, how come.. [luckyseven]
Jun 15, 2011 (3:55 pm)
2MPG advantage? We are talking about ~$300 savings per 15k annual miles or $25/month. Would not be enough for me to consider a car that 5 of my neighbors already have, but surely there is enough people who don't care about that.
#503 of 549 Re: If CX-9 is so great, how come.. [valdemar]
Jun 15, 2011 (8:00 pm)
$300 a year makes $1500 for 5 years and so on, not a chump change. And this is just one of the decision points , there are obviously plenty more, just count HLs at your neighbors garages. If you want to be different and have extra cash burning your pocket then buy something else in spite of. When I bough mine, new generation just came out and no one had it, my decision was based only on practicality and dependability. Now after 4 years owning a HL I have no regrets.
#504 of 549 Re: If CX-9 is so great, how come.. [luckyseven]
Jun 15, 2011 (10:10 pm)
It was a smart choice, and it sounds like that was what you were after.
#505 of 549 Re: If CX-9 is so great, how come.. [sixth_gear]
Jun 16, 2011 (1:34 pm)
Let me start off by saying I have a 2009 CX-9. Summer of 2009 I test drive a Ford Flex, GMC Acadia, Chevrolet Traverse, Hyundai Santa Fe, Hyundai Veracruz, Honda Pilot and Toyota HIghlander. My priorties were smoothness, power, performance and handling and comfort. CX-9 won hands down. Following were Honda Pilot (noisy and weak brakes) Ford Flex (wierd styling for me), Hyundai Santa Fe (value leader but too small), GMC Acadia/Chevrolet Traverse (too exepnsive and no inventory as GM was shut down) and finally the Toyota Highlander (too bland and too isolated from driving experience).