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2009 Honda Pilot vs. 2008 Mazda CX-9 vs. 2008 Toyota Highlander - Although we've been hearing about a mad dash to get out of sport-utility vehicles and into fuel-efficient compacts, the reality is that seven- and eight-passenger crossover SUVs like the 2008 Mazda CX-9, 2008 Toyota Highlander and 2009 Honda Pilot aren't going away anytime soon. (more)
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A warning to those who plan to buy Highlanders.... Highlander (V6) uses a very special tire size 245/55R19. Check tirerack.com if you don't believe me. There is only ONE tire available for that size, which is the OE tire from Bridgestone Dueller as well (same as CX9). http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?skipOver=true&width=245%2F&r- - - - - - atio=55&diameter=19&x=12&y=8 However, CX9 uses 245/50R20 or 245/60R18. Both sizes have many other alternatives. Why does this matter? The price for Bridgestone Dueler is about $175, which is a ripoff ('cause it is bad!) In comparision, Yokohama's Parada Spec-X is a much better all-around tire for only $159. (review scores of 4.8 vs 8.4!!!) Spec-X is available for CX9's 20" or 18" wheels. Check any owners of Highlanders and CX9s, they will tell you that this tire, Dueler, performs extremely poorly on snow (even light one), and is so-so in rain and on dry pavements. Check tirerack.com for owners' reviews on it. If you go with Highlander, you will have ZERO choice but to replace it again with the same lousy tires and they are not cheap either for their performance. My friend replaced his for $1000+ for a new set. I got my Spec-X for only about $800+. Price difference may be small, but you will be getting lousy tires for that kind of money and you have no other alternatives (unless you change sizes). Please take that into consideration. Make an educated decision to buy Highlander is why I am posting this info for you. 
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Replying to: ceric (Nov 09, 2009 11:47 am) |
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Replying to: ceric (Nov 09, 2009 11:47 am)
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Replying to: pjcrouse (Nov 11, 2009 9:25 am) >> Base Highlanders use 245/65R17 that pretty common. I thought I mentioned "Highlander V6", didn't I? to pjcrouse: Yes, one can always up size or down size your tires. I do that many times in the past. However, how many people dare to do that? Most owners are naive about automobiles. If you read the manual completely, I am sure you will find a statement like "Toyota recommend the same tire size ....." (to that effect). Besides, places like Costco "refuses" to replace tires of a different size for you. Also, your odometer will be off slightly, which may be small in your case. Anyway, just a piece of useful information whether you like it or not. The fact remains true. Toyota uses a strange size tire as OE tires. I wonder why?
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Replying to: ceric (Nov 11, 2009 11:33 pm) It might be a revelation for you but Base Highlanders come in many flavors: V6 FWD V6 AWD I4 FWD I4 AWD as a matter of fact all 2008 and 2009 Highlanders trims were available only with V6. I4 was introduced only for 2010 model year. I personally own 2008 HL Base V6 AWD that I purchased in summer of 2007 and couldn't be happier with it. Since it uses 245/65R17 tire size I don't see any issue with tires when time comes to replace them.
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Replying to: steveayz (Nov 12, 2009 4:30 am) You're right. In that case, I was referring to all Highlander with 19" wheels. (Highlander Sports/Limited/Hybrid) From my previous post, I guess it was very clear that I was talking about the 19" tires, base V6 or not. Any Highlander with 19" wheels comes with tires of strange size that only Mchelin carries.
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Replying to: ceric (Nov 12, 2009 2:27 pm)
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Replying to: mdhutton (Nov 12, 2009 5:58 pm) 245/55R19 is a very unique tire size, which was the main point.
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Replying to: ceric (Nov 13, 2009 9:23 am) pilot 245-65-17 lots starting at $127 go figure.
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