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Honda Pilot vs Mazda CX-9 vs Toyota Highlander

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What is this discussion about? Mazda CX-9, Honda Pilot, Toyota Highlander, Car Comparisons, SUV

2009 Honda Pilot vs. 2008 Mazda CX-9 vs. 2008 Toyota Highlander - Although we've been hearing about a mad dash to get out of sport-utility vehicles and into fuel-efficient compacts, the reality is that seven- and eight-passenger crossover SUVs like the 2008 Mazda CX-9, 2008 Toyota Highlander and 2009 Honda Pilot aren't going away anytime soon. (more)


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CX9 vs Pilot by mirrodie1
Oct 21, 2009 (8:16 pm)
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SO within an hour of each other, we drove the CX-9 and the Pilot:
 
CX-9: My wife loved it, smooth ride she said. The interior to her seemed as roomy as Pilot but I thought Pilot had more space and certainly have more stowaway space. I didn't feel that the dashboard was 'upscale' compared to the Pilot. Its all plastic and the simulated wood grain on the cx9 was barely noticeable. I personally didnt care for the small armrest console on the cx9.
 
The drive experience was hysterical. The dealer just gave my wife the keys and let her go alone. Then she returned and I took off by myself as well. I took the car out and did my own beating on it. I floored the pedal and felt that while it smoothly accelerated without the torque of the Pilot. I slammed on the brakes. Fine. Tight turning radius.
 
I then made my way 30 minutes to the Honda dealer and called them in route with 40 minutes to closing.
 
I took the Pilot out and the saleswoman came with me. I told her plainly that i was on a mission to put the car through the rigors. She said, "Oh, you mean you are really going to TEST test drive?"
 
"Please buckle up. I need to work the brakes."
 
We took the Pilot on some meadering roads. I floored the pedal and the Pilot was Not sluggish in my opinion. (Wife and I have a pair of Nissan Altimas. I am giving up the lease on my 2006 Altima 3.5, which I will miss dearly, while I ride the wheels off her 'young' 2000 Altima with 85K on it. The Pilot accelerated as well as the 3.5 Altima. It had MORE kick than the CX9, more torque.
 
  I slammed on the brakes a few times after hitting 50 to 60 MPH and the car responded.
 
I got a quote and went home and crunched numbers.
 
With the same options of leather sunroof and backup camera, the Cx9 is more $$ but with 1.5% financing, the CX9 ends up being ~1400 less than the Honda over a 6o month loan. However, according to kbb.com, the Pilots residuals are higher.
 
We really liked the cars equally and so are still torn. But on numerical analysis, it seems we are going with the Pilot after all. We felt the features were very similar and it was simply a matter of styling taste.
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Re: 4500 rebate? [mirrodie1] by ceric
Oct 21, 2009 (10:21 pm)
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Replying to: mirrodie1 (Oct 21, 2009 12:48 pm)

$4500 rebate is for 2009 cash buy or external loan.
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Re: CX9 vs Pilot [mirrodie1] by ceric
Oct 21, 2009 (10:28 pm)
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Replying to: mirrodie1 (Oct 21, 2009 8:16 pm)

Looks like you are leaning toward Pilot. Congrats.
 
So, you think Pilot's engine has more torque than CX9's?
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Re: CX9 vs Pilot [mirrodie1] by mms5
Oct 22, 2009 (3:40 am)
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Replying to: mirrodie1 (Oct 21, 2009 8:16 pm)

We have been deciding between the CX9 and Pilot too. Thanks for your insight. I have decided on the Pilot too this week and this is why... I borrowed my friend's CX9 for the day and was surprised at how low I sat in it. When I looked out my side window, all I saw was the side mirror. That bothered me. I currently have a 2000 Odyssey and didn't realize how much I like sitting up instead of down. I thought the CX9 was very fun and peppy to drive. I test drove the pilot and liked the feel of the space up front. I felt much closer to the front windshield in the CX9. In your price comparison, did you factor in the $4500 incentive from Mazda?
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Re: CX9 vs Pilot [mms5] by jcpharm
Oct 22, 2009 (4:13 am)
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Replying to: mms5 (Oct 22, 2009 3:40 am)

i think you can only get the $4500 incentive if you finance externally from the dealer (eg. your local bank/credit union financing)...unless someone has had a different experience.
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Re: WOW! [mirrodie1] by matmel04
Oct 22, 2009 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: mirrodie1 (Oct 21, 2009 6:12 am)

"fitting 3 car seats across in the second row. the Pilot boasts this, but can the CX9 swing it?"
 
We are expecting baby #3 any day now. When we went to test drive the CX9 & the Pilot, we took our 4-year-old son's skinny booster seat, our 2-year-old son's big toddler carseat and our Graco Snugride infant seat. We tried and tried to fit these in the 2nd row of the CX9, but couldn't get it to work. We then tried to just fit two of them and put the 3rd in the back, but we couldn't get the seat down to let our son in the back because the two carseats were in the way. It was frustrating for us and I didn't need that. SO...we drove straight over to the Honda dealership and tried the carseats in there. My husband actually started laughing as all three carseats were put in the 2nd row WITH ROOM TO SPARE! There was plenty of room for our oldest son to be able to buckle his seat belt between the other carseats. What a difference! Both cars are very nice, but we got the Pilot. We fell in love with it after testing both cars. Hope that helps with that question!
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Pilot just slightly edges Pilot by mirrodie1
Oct 22, 2009 (8:54 am)
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"So, you think Pilot's engine has more torque than CX9's?"
 
--Oh, totally. In the 3.5 Altima I drive, it cranks. So jumping into the CX9 was a drop down in torque, huge dropdown I felt. In the Pilot, it moved. My wife put it this way, in all the CUV and SUVs we have test driven, the CX-9 didnt want to "take off" like the others did and like my Altima does.
 
"and was surprised at how low I sat in it."
 
-- I was too initially but I raised the seat up and that was fine. Did you do that on the test ride?
 
"CX9 was very fun and peppy to drive"
 
-Fun, yes, just as fun as the Pilot, but not peppy in my humble opinion.
 
"Both cars are very nice, but we got the Pilot. We fell in love with it after testing both cars."
 
--Yes, its a difficult decision. But on top of all the factors considered, I figured this: The resale on the Honda is significantly higher than the Mazda although over time the Cx9 purchase would save me $1500. However, I am partial to getting more mileage and the options out right now stink for 3 row SUVs. If the Pilot have a diesel or hybrid engine, I would have been sold ages ago.
 
****sighs**** I learned to drive on my mother's 1984 Buick Estate Wagon. And this past Sunday I saw a Buick Roadmaster go by. Those were roomy cars! Bring those back in a diesel. 3 people in Front, 3-4 in the mid ro and 3-4 in back. Those were the days!
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Re: WOW! [matmel04] by mirrodie1
Oct 22, 2009 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: matmel04 (Oct 22, 2009 6:14 am)

PS congrats on the new arrival!

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