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Honda Pilot vs Mazda CX-9 vs Toyota Highlander

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What is this discussion about? Mazda CX-9, Honda Pilot, Toyota Highlander, Car Comparisons, SUV

2009 Honda Pilot vs. 2008 Mazda CX-9 vs. 2008 Toyota Highlander - Although we've been hearing about a mad dash to get out of sport-utility vehicles and into fuel-efficient compacts, the reality is that seven- and eight-passenger crossover SUVs like the 2008 Mazda CX-9, 2008 Toyota Highlander and 2009 Honda Pilot aren't going away anytime soon. (more)


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Re: Another feather in the cap of.... [aviboy97] by kree
Oct 03, 2008 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 02, 2008 1:59 pm)

I have the CR buyer's guide for 08 with the 09 preview, but CX-9 is not among the recommended.
Is this a new recommendation? If so can you provide a link or tell me where to find this new rating? Thanks so much - great news for the CX-9!
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Re: Another feather in the cap of.... [kree] by aviboy97
Oct 03, 2008 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: kree (Oct 03, 2008 7:45 am)

Here is the link to consumerreports.org.
 
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/models/new/mazda/cx-9/overview.htm
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Re: Another feather in the cap of.... [aviboy97] by ceric
Oct 06, 2008 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 03, 2008 4:55 pm)

Can't read it w/o subscription.
Other than reliability data (lack of other better source), I trust other auto-magazines than ConsumerReports. They called CX9's braking performance "poor" while all the rest of magazines praised otherwise. Strange, isn't it?
On top of that, reliability data is not "how many problems". There are big problems like engine failure, and there are small problems like window regulator failure. When one lumps all problems together, you lose the severity. I believe CX9 have had some issues on electronics integration, but overall, its reliability is superb. I had two recalls on my Prius, and none on my CX9. Does ConsumerReports counts "recalls" as problems? After all, I did need to visit my dealer to fix them. One of the two recalls of Prius was related unexpected shutdown. Sounds bad, isn't it?
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Re: Another feather in the cap of.... [ceric] by lucky_777
Oct 06, 2008 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: ceric (Oct 06, 2008 10:26 am)

No recalls on my 08 HL that I purchased back in August 2008 and it's been flawless.
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Re: Another feather in the cap of.... [ceric] by aviboy97
Oct 06, 2008 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: ceric (Oct 06, 2008 10:26 am)

I forgot about that, sorry.
 
CR places a check mark inside a red circle. That denotes their highest recommendation. If I recall, it is rated at above average for reliability.
 
As with all cars, there was a couple first year bugs, not related to the drive train. I have not really heard of any unhappy CX-9 owners. It's been a really good car.
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Re: Another feather in the cap of.... [kree] by qs933
Oct 08, 2008 (12:12 am)
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Replying to: kree (Oct 03, 2008 7:45 am)

The test with the CX-9 should be in CR's November issue, according to this article.
 
Interestingly, the new Pilot wasn't in the Top 5 -- it's not even in the Top 10.
 
The top ranked SUVs according to CR? The Highlander Hybrid, followed by the Highlander and the MDX.
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Re: Another feather in the cap of.... [qs933] by nikbert
Oct 08, 2008 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: qs933 (Oct 08, 2008 12:12 am)

I believe the Pilot is still highly recommended though. Not all in Top 10 are.
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Re: Another feather in the cap of.... [nikbert] by aviboy97
Oct 08, 2008 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: nikbert (Oct 08, 2008 11:05 am)

Recommended, yes. Long term reliability is really the only edge it may have over the competition. However, in today's market, these big vehicles are usually leased. Who cares about longevity when you are only in it for 2 or 3 years??
 
Resale in the Pilots have tanked too. I tried to wholesale a 2003 Pilot EX w/leather with 60,000 on it, and no wholesaler would even give me over $10,000 for it. Yikes.
 
To be fair, ALL SUV's have taken a huuuuge hit.
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Re: Another feather in the cap of.... [aviboy97] by badself
Oct 09, 2008 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 08, 2008 12:56 pm)

Manheim prices and NADA values for your '03 Pilot are like $7,800, even with allowance for the low mileage. If you want $10,000 for the vehicle, you most certainly have to sell it yourself, and it should be near flawless. Basically, that's how brutal the market is currently for these types of vehicles.
 
I recently traded an '03 Pilot EX-L with DVD, 102,000 miles in fair condition and got the Carfax price of $5,000 (and the $300 tax savings at 6% in MD). I had one dealer quote me $2,500.
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CUV by gypsi80
Oct 13, 2008 (2:37 pm)
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I have test drived everything and I bought a CX-9. I have 3 boys and they have friends. I push a button the the outside doorhandle and the car unlocks. I have even stuck my husband in the third row. All three cars are good but it depends on what your family and lifestyle is like. The CX-9 is the last CUV we test drove only because a Mazda dealer was the farthest away. I drove it loved it and bought it all in the same day. It is true if you like a zoom zoom just test drive it. I also like that it has a blind spot monitor system and we got the mazda DVD in the headrest so they can watch 2 different movies or play a video game and watch movies or have one movie and have it play through the sound system in the car. Great on the long drives to vacation. The only flaw the glass on the back does not open. although im not to worried about it

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