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SUVs Mazda CX-9 Honda Pilot vs Mazda CX-9 vs Toyota Highlander
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2009 Honda Pilot vs. 2008 Mazda CX-9 vs. 2008 Toyota Highlander - Although we've been hearing about a mad dash to get out of sport-utility vehicles and into fuel-efficient compacts, the reality is that seven- and eight-passenger crossover SUVs like the 2008 Mazda CX-9, 2008 Toyota Highlander and 2009 Honda Pilot aren't going away anytime soon. (more)
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Replying to: citivas (Sep 02, 2008 6:44 am) Sorry; now I think I know what you were referring to: the cyclical (not "cynical") way that Toyota adds features. The product plan is probably set for the entire life cycle of the current design. I'm sure we'll see those memory seats in 2011, which should be the mid-cycle refresh. I'd go back to my original statement, though: if the lack of memory seats was a huge factor for people not purchasing the Highlander, then it's pretty obvious that Toyota is missing the mark by not equipping its vehicles with them from the very start. I would be willing to wager that's not the case and that the feature just isn't as important relative to others. That's not to say it isn't important to you. I guess the same "cyclical" criticism could be applied to all manufacturers and how they manage their products. Honda usually adds a "special edition" in the final year of a design to boost sales. Should owners during the early years of the design feel deprived that it wasn't offered from the very beginning?
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 03, 2008 1:56 pm) If I had to make the choice all over again, I still would buy CX9. Highlander and Pilot simply don't have all the features that I wanted, besides the styling and driving dynamics.
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Replying to: eagle63 (Sep 03, 2008 6:10 pm) You should go sit in them and check them out carefully. I usually pick an autoshow (there should be one near you at certain time of the year) and sit in vehicles before my decision is made. Doing this can avoid pressure from salespersons. You should also check out the CX9 while you are at that. It has 100.7cu.ft of cargo space. |
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Replying to: ceric (Sep 03, 2008 12:28 pm)
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Replying to: qs933 (Sep 03, 2008 10:46 pm) My point remains the same -- to intentionally hold back Limited options Toyota has already developed for the same seat and that they know some of their customers will want just so they can use it as a selling point for a new model a few years later is cynical, or certainly not very respectful to their customers. I will grant you this -- clearly if Toyota believed it was a make-or-break for a huge portion of customers they wouldn't do this. But they know it is an issue for a subset of customers and they don't hold it back as you suggest for economic reasons (since they would profit from it) or because they can't prioritize it (since they've already developed it for the seats they are re-purposing from other models). Their sole reason is to have a marketing point for a new model year. They have it planned that way from before the first car of the first model year every sees the light of day.
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Replying to: kanada (Sep 04, 2008 3:23 pm) |
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Replying to: ceric (Sep 04, 2008 9:17 am)
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Replying to: citivas (Sep 04, 2008 7:45 pm) Highlander: HID headlights, split 3rd row, power front seats (w/ memory) Pilot: HID headlights, smart-key system, amber signal lights (dislike red ones), also, 6-speed tranny with M-mode. |
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Replying to: citivas (Sep 04, 2008 7:40 pm) Yes, I've been following the posts. Thanks for asking. You may want to double check that post you're referring to (#217, I believe), as it mentions that an 8-way power driver's seat will be optional on the 4-cylinder model that's introduced in January. An 8-way power driver's seat is already standard on the Sport and Limited. There's nothing about a memory option being added. If I'm looking in the wrong place, please share your source. I'm curious where the Highlander's seats are being repurposed from? Which model shares the same seats? Maybe you'd be happier if Toyota took the approach Chrysler did with their full size vans, where a mid-80s van was essentially the same as one bought 10 years later, with no new features or improvements over the vehicle's life cycle? |
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Replying to: citivas (Sep 04, 2008 7:40 pm) If there is one thing Toyota good about doing -- it brings Lexus engines/transmissions to common folks vehicles (Toyota) real fast. Talk about VVT-i, variable intake, variable exhaust, direct-injection, 6-speed transmissions, electric-steering, 50-state strict emissions, excellent MPG, and Hybrids. These are buzzwords talked-about by any other Luxo-makers, where as, Toyota brings'em to low-priced models real fast., more importantly, makes'em real affordable to you-and-me folks !! By the way, all these features work now, and will work 12 years from now (its not like a pricey 5-transistor radio is necessarily better than 1 transistor radio, 60's lore  ) What it can't offer is free/cheap-priced third-party/suppliers sourced parts., because real money goes-out for each such feature !! If all you want is more bang-for-buck, but have questionable reliability/resale/warranty-support/dealer-network/reputation., try a korean-make/korean-sourced-vehicle or something .. |
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