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Honda Pilot vs Mazda CX-9 vs Toyota Highlander

473 messages,  Last post on Nov 24, 2009 at 7:52 PM

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What is this discussion about? Mazda CX-9, Honda Pilot, Toyota Highlander, Car Comparisons, SUV

2009 Honda Pilot vs. 2008 Mazda CX-9 vs. 2008 Toyota Highlander - Although we've been hearing about a mad dash to get out of sport-utility vehicles and into fuel-efficient compacts, the reality is that seven- and eight-passenger crossover SUVs like the 2008 Mazda CX-9, 2008 Toyota Highlander and 2009 Honda Pilot aren't going away anytime soon. (more)


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Re: [citivas] by ceric
Sep 03, 2008 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: citivas (Sep 02, 2008 6:44 am)

citivas,
It looks like your wish just got granted.
8-way power driver's seat is now available on Highlander 2009 model.
Also available is the 4-cylinder (2.7L) engine with 2-row of seats.
 
"The new engine will come standard on the Highlander grade two-wheel-drive model equipped with two rows of seats, contributing to its excellent value. A third row seat package will also be available for families requiring additional seating capacity. Other key optional equipment will include an eight-way power driver's seat, manual rear air conditioning, and an AM/FM/six-disc CD Changer with satellite radio capability, MP3/WMA capability and six speakers."
 
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by citivas
Sep 03, 2008 (10:18 am)
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Too late for me since I pulled the trigger, but it does just reinforce what I predicted. Toyota always does this. They weren't saving money, they always planned to add it and held it back just to be able to makret changes year-over-year...
 
Any word on whether they fixed the third-row seat? That would truly make it more competitive.
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August sales by ceric
Sep 03, 2008 (12:28 pm)
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1st: Pilot: 11276 (some of them are probably older one - no way of knowing)
2nd: Highlander: 8070 (1277 hybrids) = 6793 (excluding hybrids)
3rd: CX-9: 3173
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Re: [qs933] by klam
Sep 03, 2008 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: qs933 (Sep 01, 2008 4:02 pm)

I would like to mention that the Pilot EX-L has a rear view backup camera without the need for Navi. The screen appears on the rear view mirror and takes up maybe 1/3 or less of it when it's on.
 
For me that is better than looking down at your dash when viewing the camera while backing up.
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Re: [klam] by maltb
Sep 03, 2008 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: klam (Sep 03, 2008 12:29 pm)

The same is true with the CX-9. All three are buying the same mirror from the same company and offer it as an accessory.
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Re: [ch1rravu] by ch1rravu
Sep 03, 2008 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: ch1rravu (Jul 28, 2008 10:39 am)

Interesting we were just talking about V4/I4's need, and 'yota folks are thinking along the same lines. Guess the gas prices rope'em in .. they shoulda had this 4-cyl mode from the very beginning of Highlander's model beginning.
 
Folks seems to have posted Aug sales figures. Nice doing Pilot .. I bet Pilot's numbers are mostly due to incentive/rebate pricing more than its real-world MPG .. but gas prices are slowly settling down, mebbe its not as big a concern anymore .?
 
Thoughts guys ..?
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Re: August sales [ceric] by aviboy97
Sep 03, 2008 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: ceric (Sep 03, 2008 12:28 pm)

I'm surprised with the Pilot sales being higher then the Highlander. The CX-9 sales seem right on par with what they (Mazda) expected.
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SUV shopping by eagle63
Sep 03, 2008 (6:10 pm)
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I'm in the market for a new SUV and both the Honda Pilot and Toyota Highlander are on my short list of rigs to check out. I currently own a 2001 Tahoe, and am looking for something a bit smaller. (but definitely not a compact suv - more like a medium sized suv)
 
I've got a million questions, but my primary one right now is with the size difference between the Highlander and the Pilot. My assumption based on seeing them on the highways is that the Pilot is considerably larger. But after looking at the cubic feet of cargo room I'm perplexed - the Highlander shows a max of 95 cu. ft and the Pilot only 88. (I'm assuming "max cargo" means with all rear seats folded down)
 
Are these 2 suv's really in the same class? Are my eyes deceiving me?? Thanks!
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Re: [citivas] by qs933
Sep 03, 2008 (10:46 pm)
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Replying to: citivas (Sep 02, 2008 6:44 am)

That is what is cynical about it.
 
Sorry; now I think I know what you were referring to: the cyclical (not "cynical") way that Toyota adds features. The product plan is probably set for the entire life cycle of the current design. I'm sure we'll see those memory seats in 2011, which should be the mid-cycle refresh.
 
I'd go back to my original statement, though: if the lack of memory seats was a huge factor for people not purchasing the Highlander, then it's pretty obvious that Toyota is missing the mark by not equipping its vehicles with them from the very start. I would be willing to wager that's not the case and that the feature just isn't as important relative to others. That's not to say it isn't important to you.
 
I guess the same "cyclical" criticism could be applied to all manufacturers and how they manage their products. Honda usually adds a "special edition" in the final year of a design to boost sales. Should owners during the early years of the design feel deprived that it wasn't offered from the very beginning?
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Re: August sales [aviboy97] by ceric
Sep 04, 2008 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 03, 2008 1:56 pm)

I believe Mazda is very happy with the sales of CX9, which used to be around 2000 units/month. Heavy incentive did help. With more CX9s on the road, people will start to pay attention and put CX9 on their shopping list. Sales will pick up slowly.
 
If I had to make the choice all over again, I still would buy CX9. Highlander and Pilot simply don't have all the features that I wanted, besides the styling and driving dynamics.

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