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472 messages, Last post on Nov 21, 2009 at 5:09 PM
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2009 Honda Pilot vs. 2008 Mazda CX-9 vs. 2008 Toyota Highlander - Although we've been hearing about a mad dash to get out of sport-utility vehicles and into fuel-efficient compacts, the reality is that seven- and eight-passenger crossover SUVs like the 2008 Mazda CX-9, 2008 Toyota Highlander and 2009 Honda Pilot aren't going away anytime soon. (more)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 23, 2008 9:17 am) And right now there's some amazing deals out there. There's "secret" money to the tune of $4,500 on the CX-9 (dealer cash) and those deals are being posted about here, on Fatwallet, SlickDeals.net, etc. Civics are going for $500 under invoice and some people back in Ohio, iirc, were buying new Quests for $10,000 off MSRP a couple of weeks back. Sounds a lot more believable to me than claims of a rubber Bigfoot in someone's freezer. 
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Replying to: steve_ (Aug 23, 2008 9:23 am) Yes, there are great deals out there, no question. But, lets be honest here...not everyone here is totally honest with what they pay.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 23, 2008 9:40 am) 
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| I think there are some fake posters but the "collective" of posters usually calls them out. The honest ones post the exact confirguation and specify whether it includes tax, title, docs and destination, etc., and they post the exact dealer they got it (or the quote) from. And even when you factor all that in, there are people getting great deals for all these cars right now. All I was saying was that in Central NJ, off the three only Honda was quoting comparable to the best (likely legitimate) deals posted here. The Toyota places weren't even close. I'm sure others are having different experiences elsewhere... | |
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Some folks posted what they paid for the new vehicles w/o mentioning the fact that they got a lousy trade-in value. I don't know why some people see that as a separate "deal", I treat my "money" equally... On CX9, the recent deals on newspaper of SF Bay Area is about $7500-$8000 off MSRP. That includes the $4500 cash rebate from Mazda if not taking the 0% financing. First, Mazda has image problem more than reliability problem. Some people only consider Honda/Toyota. Mazda probably is not even on their shopping list. It takes time for people to rediscover their interest in Mazda vehicles again. Overall, Mazda is doing very well. The sales numbers, revenue and profit show that. In fact, Mazda is the best performing company under Ford's control (~31% owned) Second, many people truly believe in CR (consumer reports) when it has been very biased toward Toyota/Honda for a long time now. They claimed MAZDA CX9 has poor 150+ft of stopping distance from 60mph, when in fact CX9 has one of the best stopping distance among its class (averaging 135-140ft from all magazine tests). That must have turned off many potential buyers. (one of my friends questioned me about it since I bought a CX9.) I don't blame them since Toyota/Honda vehicles are always good bet. |
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I ended up getting the Pilot this weekend. Happy so far, but not enough time to really judge fairly. I ruled out the Highlander in the end because it just has too many flaws I considered important and didn't get excited any time I test drove it (4 times in the end). The lack of the split third row, memory seats or iPod integration, the so-so nav system that doesn't work when moving, the limited second row (which is only really 2.5 seats wide) and finally the lack of great deals that made it at least $2K (based on the best deal) more than the Pilot or the CX-9... I would have considered the CX-9 if I could have gotten it for meaningfully less than the Pilot, to make up for my lack of enthusiasm about its tech and entertainment features but around here the Honda deals were comparable to the CX-9 and the lease deals were even better. The drive on the Honda is not as exciting (and we don't personally love the look) but it has the best seating and cabin tech, nav and entertainment in the class...
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Replying to: citivas (Aug 25, 2008 6:34 am) |
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Just went to check out the problems with the new Pilot. Apparently, many new owners have issues with the electronics as well. What else is new? The electronics in automobiles is getting more and more complex. |
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Where did you check this, out of curiosity? I've been reading the forums here and a few other places for all of these cars and haven't see any reports of widespread electronics issues? I'd like to read about it so a link is appreciated. BTW, if there are electronics problems, its not the same issue as the CX-9 if that's what you're comparing it too. The CX-9 electronics issues aren't bugs, they are by-design limitations; simply the choices Mazda made, for better or worse. They chose to prioritize other things, like the drive, and unfortunately all the cars made compromises and for Mazda it was the cabin tech. Since that's not a priority for many buyers, assuming they did their market research right it may have been a smart decision. It just wasn't compatible with my priorities, and those of some other posters.
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Replying to: citivas (Aug 26, 2008 4:54 pm) I counted two people reported problems with Bluetooth so far. (one of the two is you if I am correct).
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