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472 messages, Last post on Nov 21, 2009 at 5:09 PM
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2009 Honda Pilot vs. 2008 Mazda CX-9 vs. 2008 Toyota Highlander - Although we've been hearing about a mad dash to get out of sport-utility vehicles and into fuel-efficient compacts, the reality is that seven- and eight-passenger crossover SUVs like the 2008 Mazda CX-9, 2008 Toyota Highlander and 2009 Honda Pilot aren't going away anytime soon. (more)
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Replying to: maltb (Aug 07, 2008 12:39 pm) A computer controls the AWD, using 34434 sensors to do so. |
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For what's it worth, the price points for the similar fully-loaded top end model on each of these cars seems to have settled at different places, factoring in all the current deals and incentives. I am basing this on what the multiple deals posted in each vehicles buying experience posts here, excluding deals by one-time posters that don't back it up with specific dealer info. Based on that, it seems like you can get a fully loaded (nav, RES, etc.) Toyota for not less than $35K. The fully loaded Honda Touring can be had for less than $34K and the fully loaded Mazda GT for $31-32K... All three are offering special financing with Mazda having the most agreesive terms and Toyota the least. However, the Honda deals allow both the financing and dealer incentives to be combined which the others do not (though some have reported getting the best deals from Mazda anyway and still getting the financing). From a per economic viewpoint, the Toyota is the worst value and the CX-9 the best. The Toyota is also the only one in the bunch with no memory seats and with the least overall seating roominess. But it obviously has other benefits... |
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CX-9 loses on popularity, resale value and brand image. However, it wins on other aspect like handling, styling, functionality.... That is why it had won on all comparison tests. I own a CX-9. |
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For what's it worth, here in Central NJ, it is the Honda dealers that are being the most aggressive and good faith so far. I have gotten quotes comparable to the best listed on the fourms here for comparably equipped. The Toyota dealers are still a ways off and surprisingly the CX-9 dealers have been the least competitive (relative to the best prices listed in the forums here)... This is ironic since he Honda is an '09. They are really bending over backwards to move these... Don't know if that is a good or bad sign.
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Replying to: citivas (Aug 23, 2008 7:59 am) That's because many like to lie about what they pay. Sites like these can sometimes do more harm then good and cause people to walk away from a good deal because of some of the garbage they read on the internet. Common everyone, you can't believe EVERYTHING you read on the internet!!!
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 23, 2008 9:17 am) And right now there's some amazing deals out there. There's "secret" money to the tune of $4,500 on the CX-9 (dealer cash) and those deals are being posted about here, on Fatwallet, SlickDeals.net, etc. Civics are going for $500 under invoice and some people back in Ohio, iirc, were buying new Quests for $10,000 off MSRP a couple of weeks back. Sounds a lot more believable to me than claims of a rubber Bigfoot in someone's freezer. 
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Replying to: steve_ (Aug 23, 2008 9:23 am) Yes, there are great deals out there, no question. But, lets be honest here...not everyone here is totally honest with what they pay.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 23, 2008 9:40 am) 
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| I think there are some fake posters but the "collective" of posters usually calls them out. The honest ones post the exact confirguation and specify whether it includes tax, title, docs and destination, etc., and they post the exact dealer they got it (or the quote) from. And even when you factor all that in, there are people getting great deals for all these cars right now. All I was saying was that in Central NJ, off the three only Honda was quoting comparable to the best (likely legitimate) deals posted here. The Toyota places weren't even close. I'm sure others are having different experiences elsewhere... | |
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Some folks posted what they paid for the new vehicles w/o mentioning the fact that they got a lousy trade-in value. I don't know why some people see that as a separate "deal", I treat my "money" equally... On CX9, the recent deals on newspaper of SF Bay Area is about $7500-$8000 off MSRP. That includes the $4500 cash rebate from Mazda if not taking the 0% financing. First, Mazda has image problem more than reliability problem. Some people only consider Honda/Toyota. Mazda probably is not even on their shopping list. It takes time for people to rediscover their interest in Mazda vehicles again. Overall, Mazda is doing very well. The sales numbers, revenue and profit show that. In fact, Mazda is the best performing company under Ford's control (~31% owned) Second, many people truly believe in CR (consumer reports) when it has been very biased toward Toyota/Honda for a long time now. They claimed MAZDA CX9 has poor 150+ft of stopping distance from 60mph, when in fact CX9 has one of the best stopping distance among its class (averaging 135-140ft from all magazine tests). That must have turned off many potential buyers. (one of my friends questioned me about it since I bought a CX9.) I don't blame them since Toyota/Honda vehicles are always good bet. |
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