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Mazda CX-9, Honda Pilot, Toyota Highlander, Car Comparisons, SUV
Jul 07, 2008 (1:31 pm)
I noticed they picked on the Pilot for its brakes. Compared it to the Edge which was hammered for its brakes when it first came out. Look at the chart from the latest mid-sized comparo C&D did and you'll find that the Pilot's brakes aren't all that bad. Note: The Murano won that comparo even with its awful brakes.
C&D CUV comparo data
C&D has no 70-0 braking data for the Pilot yet. They do however estimate it to go to 60 in 7.6 seconds. Either the Edmunds editors can't drive or C&D is waaaaay off.
#3 of 549 VCM Overrated?
Jul 07, 2008 (2:16 pm)
Highlander 20mpg (270hp / 248tq)
Pilot 18.6mpg (250hp / 243tq)
CX-9 18.4mpg (273hp / 270tq)
From the looks of this comparo, the Highlander has the best combo of power and fuel economy with the CX-9 right behind it due to the fact its observed fuel economy was on par with the Pilot while boasting a 23hp and 27lb-ft tq advantage over the Pilot. From this, I read that the VCM does not do much to help real world fuel economy.
#4 of 549 Honda Motor Corp - Read and Learn Please
Jul 07, 2008 (4:50 pm)
I like everything about my 2006 Pilot EX-L AWD.
When I first looked at the 2009 Pilot, I was very disappointed to see it did not get the new 3.7 liter motor of the Acura MDX. Now, it's clear. Dear Honda, as soon as possible, fix the brakes, change the tires and give us the new motor. Then, I'll buy one. For the moment, I can see NO reason to sell my 2006 and buy a 2009.
Oh yeah, while I'm at it. Price the cars you offer in Canada fairly. There is almost a $11,000 PENALTY if you buy a 2009 Touring in Canada. That's $11,000 more than the identical car in the US. WHY?
Thanks for listening.
#5 of 549 Roomy second row
Jul 07, 2008 (5:02 pm)
Why do reviews neglect the importance of the center seat in the second row? The center seat in the Higlander is a joke and the CX-9's is not much better. Of the current crop of crossovers, only the Pilot and the Lambdas have enough room for three normal sized humans in the second row although the seat cushion in the middle spot in the Lambdas is not too comfortable. If you need the option of transporting 5 adults/teenagers and a significant amount of gear inside the vehicle, the Toyota and Mazda are not realistic options. Frankly, the Toyota is a four seater since the third row is not fit for human occupation. The center seat in the Audi Q7 is also an afterthought suitable for no one over the age of ten. Lest anyone think my girth is causing this squeeze, I assure you my 6'2" 170 lb frame is not the problem here.
#6 of 549 Re: Roomy second row [mulligan101]
Jul 07, 2008 (5:26 pm)
Right, sit them in the very back then, because adults can fit back there, the seat in the middle is for children, not for grownups.
#7 of 549 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Honda Pilot vs. 2008 Mazda CX-9 vs. 2008 Toyota Hig [KarenS]
Jul 07, 2008 (6:43 pm)
Shouldn't the title have read, "Asian Crossover Comparison"? No Lambdas, no Flex, no Journey, and so on. Please explain.
#8 of 549 Where IS the outlook
Jul 08, 2008 (1:48 am)
Where is it seriously though?
#9 of 549 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Honda Pilot vs. 2008 Mazda CX-9 vs. 2008 Toyota Hig [rf600r]
Jul 08, 2008 (2:59 am)
I was just wondering the same thing. After all, they *do* have a Lambda in their stable too (the Enclave). Or would that have put all the Asians to shame, so they just decided to leave it out?
#10 of 549 Re: Roomy second row [mulligan101]
Jul 08, 2008 (5:30 am)
I did not have a problem sitting in the middle row of the CX-9. I'm 6'3" and 195lbs. Shoulder room is a little tight and the seat its self was not as comfortable as the outer seats, however, it is doable.
#11 of 549 Others?
Jul 08, 2008 (5:41 am)
That's exactly how I would have placed these CUVs. But you guys are missing some competitors. Like the GMC Acadia (Chevy Traversr?) and Hyundai Veracruz. And eventually you'll have to compare the Ford Flex to something.