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#159 of 178 Re: '59 Chevy vs. '09 Malibu [Mr_Shiftright]
Jan 03, 2013 (12:08 pm)
I hardly think that someone would have smashed up a car worth $10,000.
Well, the car they ran that '59 into was probably worth about $18-25,000!
#160 of 178 Re: '59 Chevy vs. '09 Malibu [andre1969]
Jan 03, 2013 (12:58 pm)
...and is any '59 Chevy six sedan worth $10K, even original or restored? He wasn't in the market for a '59 Chevy, but he is constantly looking. He has a column in Hemmings, incidentally. If I bought every car I checked out, I'd be even poorer than I am sending a kid to Miami Univ. at MSRP!
I just think the whole exercise was dopey. Again, we'll agree to disagree.
#161 of 178 Re: '59 Chevy vs. '09 Malibu [uplanderguy]
Jan 03, 2013 (1:50 pm)
I understand how you feel about old cars being destroyed. You feel sentimental and nostalgic about them, even those that were produced in huge numbers. They represent the past. They also have economic value to someone, otherwise the owners would have scrapped them. Even though there are many left, the numbers are only dwindling.
Aside from the fact that I felt that Cash For Clunkers was faulty economics, I was sorry to see a lot of old cars destroyed.
I also understand Shifty's point of view.
#162 of 178 Re: '59 Chevy vs. '09 Malibu [hpmctorque]
Jan 03, 2013 (2:12 pm)
C4C irked me too, as a lot of MB W124 and W126 bit the dust. But....useful parts were scavenged first, and it is probably easier now to find parts for a car of that era than ever before. If one assumes the scrapped cars were really heaps on their last legs - at least some parts of them were used to help keep others going.
#163 of 178 Re: '59 Chevy vs. '09 Malibu [uplanderguy]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jan 03, 2013 (4:28 pm)
I thought the experiment was very interesting and really need to be done. Given the number of hits on YouTube, this was no doubt quite educational for a lot of people. I used to hear the old "they don't build them like they used to" cliche so much that honestly I would have donated that '59 Chevy under my own expense just so I can link people to the video.
Next thing I want to do is videotape the repair bills for all the "These cars can go 500,000 miles with no problem" advertisements I see.
#164 of 178 Re: '59 Chevy vs. '09 Malibu [Mr_Shiftright]
Jan 03, 2013 (5:31 pm)
I use it to defuse the "I drove a heap like that and survived, so they must be fine!" comments, which kinda ignore the fact that all those folks that DIDN'T survive aren't around to complain...
#165 of 178 Re: '59 Chevy vs. '09 Malibu [texases]
Jan 03, 2013 (5:42 pm)
It is funny the way kids used to crawl around in cars, no seat belts, put eight people in a car built for six, etc., and here we are.
I think the bigger problem is, there are more cars today than there used to be (where I grew up, most everyone just had one car; we now have three daily drivers), and today's A.D.D. drivers always worried me when I was out in my Studebakers--that one wouldn't be able to see brake lights that didn't include a CHMSL; that they'd be on the phone or texting, etc. In other words, I worry far more about other drivers not paying attention than I did 35 or even 25 years ago. In fact, I went years without so much as being bumped. Both my wife and I have been bumped from behind by women in the last six months.
#166 of 178 Re: '59 Chevy vs. '09 Malibu [Mr_Shiftright]
Jan 04, 2013 (8:33 am)
I'd also like to see comparisons of the cost of ownership of very high mileage cars versus those that are scrapped between 150,000-250,000 miles. Two hundred thousand seems to, more or less, be the new 100,000.
#167 of 178 Re: '59 Chevy vs. '09 Malibu [hpmctorque]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jan 04, 2013 (9:38 am)
I always advise people that once their car hits about 250K, to have it carefully looked over for structural failure---cracks in control arms, tearing of the chassis at anchoring points, mounting of the steering box--that sort of thing.
I guess as long as your monthly average repairs bills don't approach monthly new car payments, then you are technically "ahead" with a high mileage used car, but of course your loyal steed may not look, or smell, very good anymore.
Also people have different tolerance levels. Someone driving a car with 350,000 on it might be perfectly happy, as well as oblivious to 25 things wrong with it---"yeah, you just gotta pump the brakes a little" or "gas smell? What gas smell?" or "That clunk in the front end? Hell, I don't know--it's been that way for a year".
#168 of 178 Re: '59 Chevy vs. '09 Malibu [Mr_Shiftright]
Jan 04, 2013 (9:56 am)
Yeah, any car with 200,000 miles, not to mention 350,000, is bound to have a few things that aren't perfect. However, that can be some of the charm, or character of the car, so long as safety isn't affected. Oh, and bad smells aren't charming.