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Tire fell off on 2004 Lincoln Aviator-could have been horrible

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#11 of 26 by elyseg Jun 30, 2008 (2:42 pm)
I was hoping you could tell me. That's what someone said who was there when I lost the wheel. I mentioned what Carmax said and he said that would be tough because the outerplate (first he said casing) was still intact in order to try to remove the lug nuts. Does this make any sense? Sorry for the ignorant questions.
#12 of 26 by elyseg Jun 30, 2008 (4:09 pm)
Akirby...I found out a little more about the "casing" on the wheel... the aviator has a cover (almost like a hubcap) that covers the lug nuts. This cover was still on the wheel when it fell off. You would have to remove the cover to remove the lug nuts. Does that make more sense? Would it make sense that that stayed on if someone was trying to steal it? Replies to this message: akirby (Jun 30, 2008 4:13 pm)
#13 of 26 Re: [elyseg] by akirby Jun 30, 2008 (4:13 pm)
Replying to: elyseg (Jun 30, 2008 4:09 pm) I agree - if someone was trying to steal it and stopped midway the cover would be off. I still think it's more likely they simply worked loose over time.
#14 of 26 by elyseg Jun 30, 2008 (4:33 pm)
But the tricky part...proving that to Carmax. They did say they removed the tires 2700 miles ago but they had the carefully inspected??? Replies to this message: jeyhoe (Jun 30, 2008 7:24 pm) akirby (Jul 01, 2008 6:56 am) steve_ (Jul 01, 2008 7:40 am)
#15 of 26 Re: [elyseg] by jeyhoe Jun 30, 2008 (7:24 pm)
Replying to: elyseg (Jun 30, 2008 4:33 pm) The absolute most likely thing is that whoever last put the WHEEL on, forgot to tighten the lug nuts. The next most likely is that they left them loose on purpose.   I dont see how you can prove either one. Nor can u prove who did it.   I think the lesson here is to pay attention to your car. If the wheel is wobbly, have it looked at. RIght away. If you hit the brakes and hear a scraping sound, have the brakes fixed. Replies to this message: akirby (Jul 01, 2008 6:56 am) steve_ (Jul 01, 2008 7:40 am)
#16 of 26 Re: [jeyhoe] by akirby Jul 01, 2008 (6:56 am)
Replying to: jeyhoe (Jun 30, 2008 7:24 pm) Gotta agree with jeyhoe on this one (wow - write that down!). First, it's the WHEEL that came off, not the tire. Big difference. Second - there is now way to prove or disprove the root cause or when it occurred or whose fault it is. If Carmax isn't willing to take responsibility your only recourse is to use insurance or sue them, and you don't have enough evidence to get a judgement in small claims court.   In the future stop and check the lug nuts anytime you feel a wheel problem. Replies to this message: steve_ (Jul 01, 2008 7:40 am)
#17 of 26 Re: [akirby] by steve_ HOST Jul 01, 2008 (7:40 am)
Replying to: akirby (Jul 01, 2008 6:56 am) I think it's worth a shot. Wheels don't come off by themselves - unlike a blow-out, someone screwed up somewhere. That someone is probably the last person who worked on the car, and the judge may believe the driver more than the seller. CarMax may just do the right thing before it comes to that.   I don't recall a wheel bearing being an issue, just the lug nuts. If there are alloys on the car, then perhaps the lug nuts need to be retorqued after a hundred miles or so. But if the lug nuts were properly tightened the first time, I don't think they should come loose like that.   Please let us know what happens, Elyseg.
#18 of 26 by elyseg Jul 01, 2008 (10:17 am)
Hi Steve, A lot has happened in a day. CarMax is stepping up to the plate. I'll keep you all posted. I need to run and pick up a car now on behalf of CarMax, until everything gets sorted out. Replies to this message: zgbinst1 (Jul 26, 2008 6:53 am) elyseg (Jul 27, 2008 6:39 am) zgbinst1 (Jul 28, 2008 4:15 pm) and 1 more... geasea (Nov 13, 2008 8:41 pm)
#19 of 26 Re: [elyseg] by zgbinst1 Jul 26, 2008 (6:53 am)
Replying to: elyseg (Jul 01, 2008 10:17 am) The very same thing has happen to my sister and her Ford Expedition believe it or not it happen on I 95 and she bought it from Carmax. Just wanted to know what did you do to get Carmax to step up. Replies to this message: elyseg (Jul 27, 2008 6:39 am) zgbinst1 (Jul 28, 2008 4:15 pm) elyseg (Jul 30, 2008 12:37 pm) geasea (Nov 13, 2008 8:41 pm)
#20 of 26 Re: [zgbinst1] by elyseg Jul 27, 2008 (6:39 am)
Replying to: zgbinst1 (Jul 26, 2008 6:53 am) zgbingst 1. I hope everything was ok with your sister? Carmax was really great but it took a phone call to the CEO in Richmond, VA to make it happen. After I left him a message and faxed over a letter stating what happened, the General Manager at the local CarMax called and told me to come in and pick out any new car (same value of course). How long did you have the car from CarMax and which location did you purchase from? Replies to this message: zgbinst1 (Jul 28, 2008 4:15 pm) elyseg (Jul 30, 2008 12:37 pm) geasea (Nov 13, 2008 8:41 pm)

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