Last post on Aug 08, 2008 at 12:18 PM
You are in the Subaru Legacy & Outback
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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Sedan, Wagon
#3 of 12 Re: Partial-Zero Emissions Vehicle? [pilot1226]
Jun 24, 2008 (12:25 pm)
Actually, you're covered for 150,000 miles on emissions equipment, since that's the warranty for PZEV models only. So you actually have less to worry about.
I'm in MD, which is not a PZEV state, but I went out of the way to order one specifically, believe it or not.
#4 of 12 Re: Partial-Zero Emissions Vehicle? [ateixeira]
Jun 24, 2008 (1:02 pm)
That's awesome. Can you tell me what parts the PZEV warranty covers?
#5 of 12 Re: Partial-Zero Emissions Vehicle? [pilot1226]
Jun 24, 2008 (1:05 pm)
Ironically, in MD, where I live, none. Because it's not a PZEV state.
But state laws in PZEV states mean all emissions related items are covered. Basically it has to pass emissions inspection for the first 150,000 miles.
If anything, it would make sense for Subaru to use more durable emissions related euqipment on the PZEV models.
On the PZEV Forester, you get a bonus - 5 extra horsepower.
Jun 25, 2008 (11:34 am)
I ordered one for IL. the PZEV warranty only holds in PZEV mandated states otherwise you get the regular warranty on the emissions, you can get a PZEV Subaru from any state, its 200 bucks more for OBs and will have to be a special order by the dealer.
some people have found that the idling on first start is very rough in cold weather. there has been a TSB on this, the engine is designed to run on CA spec fuel, it the fuel in your state is different enough, this idle problem could occur. I have not noticed a problem in IL.
#7 of 12 Re: PZEV [cptplt]
Jun 25, 2008 (2:46 pm)
Hmm. I'm in NJ which is right next to the PZEV states, I'll have to keep an eye on the fuel and idle this winter.
#8 of 12 Re: PZEV [cptplt]
Jun 26, 2008 (7:31 am)
I know (about the warranty), but we wanted the 5 extra HP and it doesn't hurt that it's more green.
#9 of 12 Re: Partial-Zero Emissions Vehicle? [pilot1226]
Aug 06, 2008 (5:10 pm)
I own an '08 O/B LTD W/VDC which is a PZEV vehicle. The only thing you should know is that after the car has been sitting for a while and you start it, it runs rough and loud - sounds kind of crazy for a new car. But, one tap of the gas pedal makes it stop right away and idle quietly. Not crazy about having to do this every morning but I guess it's just part of the routine now. If given the choice, I probably would not opt for the PZEV feature but just about all Outbacks in MA have it.
#10 of 12 Re: Partial-Zero Emissions Vehicle? [outback08]
Aug 06, 2008 (5:16 pm)
Yeah tapping the pedal to reduce emissions is tough!
#11 of 12 Re: Partial-Zero Emissions Vehicle? [paisan]
Aug 06, 2008 (5:24 pm)
Well, each time I have to tap the gas pedal I think of my first car, '78 Datsun B-210. I had to tap that gas pedal too - to get it going. I guess this is just one more quirky Subie feature.
#12 of 12 Re: Partial-Zero Emissions Vehicle? [outback08]
Aug 08, 2008 (12:18 pm)
Our 2009 PZEV Forester doesn't do that. I'll keep an eye out for that just in case.