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You are in the Subaru Legacy & Outback
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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Sedan, Wagon
#60 of 132 Re: Frameless windows [cd68]
Sep 03, 2008 (5:48 am)
It's a tough call. I was in the same boat as you about a month ago, then decided to get the 2009 Legacy 2.5i Limited.
I considered waiting for 2010 and the remake, but friends and family alike cautioned me on being the first to own a brand new model year. My mother specifically recommended getting the 2009 since it's the last year for this build - so more or less they've got the majority of the kinks out.
The things I would have liked to see in 2010 would have been the low-force door handles (the ones that pull out rather than pull up, was kind of disappointed that this wasn't available), and likewise I'd like to have seen a little bit more storage space in the front, whether they add an eyeglass compartment near the sunroof controls or make the center console and cupholder console slightly larger.
I could take or leave bluetooth. I prefer to have the phone conversation in my ear rather than broadcasting in the car, because it gets awkward with passengers and quality isn't the same as an in-ear bluetooth regardless of the manufacturer.
Mileage I'm comfortable with. Although the sticker on the 2.5i was only 22 city/26 highway, I'm getting higher than 30 - about 30.9 to be exact - on highway with the air conditioner on constantly (Auto Climate Control). I'm not really using the shiftronic or the sport mode of the transmission, but I am driving the car gently... Not really letting the RPM's exceed 3.5k and not doing any abrupt braking unless I have to. I think in City driving, the 22 is probably accurate.
If they added a 5-speed Automatic Transmission next year, I'd consider purchasing another Legacy to replace my Nissan Sentra.
To me, it's all about Safety, which is why I looked into an AWD vehicle in the first place... I'd rather lose a few highway MPG (losing about 5 MPG compared to my `00 Honda Civic) in order to survive - or more importantly avoid - an accident.
That being said, and getting back to the original point, you're the one with the power now. The economy is floundering a bit, and as the `09's get more and more "common" throughout the market, you'll start seeing better and better financing deals and cash back offers. If you can wait until the `10's are released next summer, you'll probably get a killer offer on a 2009 if you can still find them. My wife and I were going to go after a 2008 since they had a super low price compared to the `09 Legacy, but none were around the NJ area in late July - just a week or two after the `09's launched.
Fingers crossed when I'm ready to get rid of my Nissan that Subaru will have a "keyless" ignition like many other car makers are doing... Mini, Nissan, etc. all have the push-button start with the intelligent key now (the key doesn't need to be in the ignition to run, just in your pocket). I like the high-tech features like that.
#61 of 132 Re: Frameless windows [pilot1226]
Sep 03, 2008 (7:07 am)
Thanks very much for your detailed reply. You have given me a lot to ponder!
#62 of 132 Re: Frameless windows [cd68]
Sep 03, 2008 (9:24 am)
You'll probably see framed windows, but I doubt more storage space. Our 09 Forester actually has less than my 1998 Forester did.
Bluetooth is a maybe.
Improved gas mileage? My guess is no. Actually mileage peaked for the 2003 model year, at 23/30, and has not matched that peak since.
The 09 Forester gets the same mileage as the 08. The turbo XT improved slightly, though.
#63 of 132 Re: Frameless windows [ateixeira]
Sep 03, 2008 (6:26 pm)
The 2010 Legacy is going to be very different. First it's gonna be A6 sized so much larger than the current one. Price will also go up accordingly. Weight is supposed to stay the same. I expect framed doors.
#64 of 132 Re: Frameless windows [paisan]
Sep 11, 2008 (10:33 am)
Safe to assume the same changes will apply to '10 Outback (much larger, A6 size class, etc.) ?
Sep 11, 2008 (3:37 pm)
Love the look of the onyx on your new '09. I am actually a tad jealous of you. I bought my '09 Legacy 2.5i Limited two weeks ago today. I'm jealous that you beat me to it haha . I'll get a camera tomorrow, take pics and post em as soon as I can. Mine is Newport Blue Pearl. I love the leather interior, the ride is awesome. It's my first Subaru. I have no idea why I didn't look at them sooner, these cars are really terrific. .
I read about a couple of people who were over six feet tall having issues in the driver's seat. Sorry to hear about that, I'm 5'6". I fit in the driver's seat like a hand in a glove.
I had them add the console extender, as it's just too low as is for my comfort. Other than that, I think this car is terrific.
She still doesn't even have 1000 miles on her. Call me crazy, but sometimes I sit outside and look at it and just smile.
#66 of 132 Re: Frameless windows [kurtamaxxxguy]
Sep 11, 2008 (4:44 pm)
Kurt, yeah the OB will be on the same chassis. It may get a different front clip but essentially the same.
OB will be wagon only body and Leg will be sedan only.
#67 of 132 Re: [mysubiesnew]
Sep 11, 2008 (6:43 pm)
Congratulations. I'm 6'0" and it seems like I wouldn't be comfortable if I was a little bit bigger. However, when I drive, I like to be reclined back about 30-45 degrees and I like my seat to be as low as possible and as far back from the steering column as possible.
I didn't have a problem fitting in my Honda Civic before this, nor do I have a problem in my Nissan Sentra.
I think the sunroof takes an inch or two off of the height, so if that really is a deal breaker, you could potentially look into an Outback 2.5i SE since that doesn't come with the sunroof.
Sep 12, 2008 (1:08 pm)
Congratulations to you as well on your new ride.
This is mysubiesnew, I just changed my name.
I was curious as to how you like your new Legacy? If you don't mind me asking.
Also, what kind of tires did yours come equipped with? Mine has Yokohama 205/50r17. Again, I hope you don't mind my asking.
#69 of 132 Re: [tornadobrain]
Sep 16, 2008 (8:20 am)
It's great! We're at about the 1500 mile mark, and for the last few weeks, my wife has been at the helm.
The only thing that I've noticed - not that it's a bad thing - is that the idle is high on startup, so the PZEV can get warmed up faster, I imagine. It's not a bad thing, just a cosmetic nuisance, I guess.
Pretty sure they're Yokohama's, but I haven't checked the specific size on them.