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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Sedan, Wagon
#54 of 132 Re: 2009 now on Edmund's... [outback08]
Aug 30, 2008 (7:13 pm)
I've had both of those types of rattles.
The 'cargo' rattle probably comes from the plastic covers, next to the rear lights, just under the tail gate. You can paste some weather proofing strip (spongy/rubbery), or just stuff some clothing first between the gate and those plastics, to prove they are causing the rattles.
For the 'sunroof' rattle, there is actually a repair kit issued by Subaru. I've had my 2007 Outback fixed one week ago. The invoice says "...installed sunroof repair kit..."; part might be 43SUZZM1 - ask your dealer about this.
#55 of 132 Re: Car Care [ahq]
Aug 31, 2008 (3:17 pm)
Yes, each $100 coupon is good for four (4) years on a date it was issued.
#56 of 132 Re: Car Care [pilot1226]
Sep 02, 2008 (11:20 am)
The Chase Visa is my "everything else" card. This card actually gives you 3% on the top three categories of spending; they give you 3% on your top five if you hold a Chase Checking account. No expiration, no limit
Read the fine print, there are some limits.
Consumer Reports reviewed the card recently and I think they cap the 3% rebate at $18 per month, beyond that you only get 1% back.
Since you have 3 cards you may not exceed that limit (you would have to put more than $600 on your 3rd card in a single month), but there are limits.
My wife puts large business expenses on her card, so that $600 spending cap did not work well for us. I guess annually it would be $18 per month times 12, or just $216 per year in rebates at the 3% rate, the rest at 1%.
The Subaru card is with the same bank (Chase) but the cap is $500 annually, 3% for everything. No restrictions on categories for purchases, plus you stop using the card when you get the $500, so you know right away.
Of course the "restriction" is that you have to spend it at a Subaru dealer, but at least you can use it for service, parts, accessories, leases, or purchases. Even CPO used Subarus.
Our 2nd card is a Citibank Shell card - 5% back on all gas, 1% on all else.
So basically we get:
* 5% on all gas, no matter what
* 3% on everything else until we hit the $500 cap
* then 1% from that point on using the Shell gas card
I could probably get more than 1% for that short period of time but it's usually only a month or two.
#57 of 132 Frameless windows
Sep 02, 2008 (11:52 am)
Does anyone know if the re-designed 2010 Legacy will have framed windows, or continue to have the frame-less windows?
I'm very interested in buying a new Legacy, but I've never had a car with frameless windows before, and I'm not sure if I would like them or if they would just be really annoying.
If anyone has any thoughts I would be most grateful.
#58 of 132 Re: Frameless windows [cd68]
Sep 02, 2008 (12:58 pm)
That seems likely, given the Tribeca, then Impreza, then Forester all moved to that design. Especially since the Legacy is more upscale, so you think dropping wind noise would be a priority.
Cons? More weight, more seals needed, thicker pillars (maybe).
#59 of 132 Re: Frameless windows [ateixeira]
Sep 02, 2008 (2:41 pm)
That was my thought - since the Impreza and Forester in particular moved toward framed windows - it seems logical that the Legacy does so as well.
I'm considering buying the 2009 Legacy since it's an established design and all of the potential issues with regard to a brand new design are not applicable. On the other hand, I don't want to buy the 2009, and find out that the 2010 is an absolutely perfect car from a design and function standpoint. (In my opinion they should add framed windows, a bit more storage space for small stuff in the front seat, bluetooth, and improved gas mileage).
#60 of 132 Re: Frameless windows [cd68]
Sep 03, 2008 (4:48 am)
It's a tough call. I was in the same boat as you about a month ago, then decided to get the 2009 Legacy 2.5i Limited.
I considered waiting for 2010 and the remake, but friends and family alike cautioned me on being the first to own a brand new model year. My mother specifically recommended getting the 2009 since it's the last year for this build - so more or less they've got the majority of the kinks out.
The things I would have liked to see in 2010 would have been the low-force door handles (the ones that pull out rather than pull up, was kind of disappointed that this wasn't available), and likewise I'd like to have seen a little bit more storage space in the front, whether they add an eyeglass compartment near the sunroof controls or make the center console and cupholder console slightly larger.
I could take or leave bluetooth. I prefer to have the phone conversation in my ear rather than broadcasting in the car, because it gets awkward with passengers and quality isn't the same as an in-ear bluetooth regardless of the manufacturer.
Mileage I'm comfortable with. Although the sticker on the 2.5i was only 22 city/26 highway, I'm getting higher than 30 - about 30.9 to be exact - on highway with the air conditioner on constantly (Auto Climate Control). I'm not really using the shiftronic or the sport mode of the transmission, but I am driving the car gently... Not really letting the RPM's exceed 3.5k and not doing any abrupt braking unless I have to. I think in City driving, the 22 is probably accurate.
If they added a 5-speed Automatic Transmission next year, I'd consider purchasing another Legacy to replace my Nissan Sentra.
To me, it's all about Safety, which is why I looked into an AWD vehicle in the first place... I'd rather lose a few highway MPG (losing about 5 MPG compared to my `00 Honda Civic) in order to survive - or more importantly avoid - an accident.
That being said, and getting back to the original point, you're the one with the power now. The economy is floundering a bit, and as the `09's get more and more "common" throughout the market, you'll start seeing better and better financing deals and cash back offers. If you can wait until the `10's are released next summer, you'll probably get a killer offer on a 2009 if you can still find them. My wife and I were going to go after a 2008 since they had a super low price compared to the `09 Legacy, but none were around the NJ area in late July - just a week or two after the `09's launched.
Fingers crossed when I'm ready to get rid of my Nissan that Subaru will have a "keyless" ignition like many other car makers are doing... Mini, Nissan, etc. all have the push-button start with the intelligent key now (the key doesn't need to be in the ignition to run, just in your pocket). I like the high-tech features like that.
#61 of 132 Re: Frameless windows [pilot1226]
Sep 03, 2008 (6:07 am)
Thanks very much for your detailed reply. You have given me a lot to ponder!
#62 of 132 Re: Frameless windows [cd68]
Sep 03, 2008 (8:24 am)
You'll probably see framed windows, but I doubt more storage space. Our 09 Forester actually has less than my 1998 Forester did.
Bluetooth is a maybe.
Improved gas mileage? My guess is no. Actually mileage peaked for the 2003 model year, at 23/30, and has not matched that peak since.
The 09 Forester gets the same mileage as the 08. The turbo XT improved slightly, though.
#63 of 132 Re: Frameless windows [ateixeira]
Sep 03, 2008 (5:26 pm)
The 2010 Legacy is going to be very different. First it's gonna be A6 sized so much larger than the current one. Price will also go up accordingly. Weight is supposed to stay the same. I expect framed doors.