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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Sedan, Wagon
#24 of 132 Re: Looking at 09 (sorry about the prev. post) [altimate]
Aug 11, 2008 (8:29 pm)
Here in Milwaukee, a couple of area Subaru dealers are advertising $179/month leases on the 2.5i SE w/manual transmission. The terms are 10K miles per year, 2 year term, and around $899-999 down depending on the dealership.
I currently drive a 2002 Nissan Sentra GXE with about 76K miles. After this last winter, which really mangled the roads around here, my Sentra's ride became almost downright punishing, even though the shocks and struts are reportedly still in good shape. I wanted to move up to a car with a more solid structure and a more absorbent ride.
I was considering leasing a 2008 Impreza 2.5i sedan, which has been advertised for $199 sign-and-drive 36-month leases around here for months. The Impreza reportedly has one of the best rides in its class. However, after finding out about the $179 lease on the Legacy, I went to the dealership this evening with the intention to evaluate both cars.
The Impreza is a nice small car, but it isn't a major step up from my Sentra like the Legacy is. I was upside down on my Sentra by around $320, so rolling that difference into my 24-month, 12K mile lease gave me monthly payments of $241 plus tax. BTW the Legacy I was looking at is an automatic, not a stick shift.
Regarding altimate's concern about comfort, I guess it depends on what you're used to. I'm also 6'0" and weigh 250 lbs (what a coincidence, eh?) and I found the Legacy cockpit to be just that... it felt like a cockpit, somewhat snug but I didn't find it to be cramped. I didn't feel the handbrake jabbing into my thigh, but my test drive lasted 15 minutes at best. I can live with it for two years if I had to, however. I should add that the power driver's seat really enhanced comfort by providing me with very good thigh support. The Sentra has accomodated me quite well, but the Legacy is slightly more comfortable for me.
One definitely can't fit four six-footers in a Legacy sedan, especially with a sunroof, which cuts into rear seat headroom. It's not as spacious as an Altima, Accord, or Camry. But if space is not much of an issue (it isn't for me, I rarely have more than one passenger with me), then I'd go for the Legacy... it has so much more flair than the others!
Can't wait to pick up my car tomorrow evening!!
#25 of 132 Re: Looking at 09 (sorry about the prev. post) [ahq]
Aug 12, 2008 (4:31 am)
Thanks for giving me a heads up on your experience.
I think I need to give the car a longer drive to really judge whether the comfort issue is minor or a deal breaker. I might ask the dealer if I could get one to drive for a day (or a good part of a day) so that I could deal with the issue.
I think I'll check some other dealers to see how they approach the option issue which obviuosly shouldn't raise the lease price as much as it did.
#26 of 132 Re: Looking at 09 (sorry about the prev. post) [altimate]
Aug 12, 2008 (7:49 am)
Comfort is paramount. Honestly, I would try a Forester, or buy something else.
#28 of 132 Re: [pilot1226]
Aug 12, 2008 (11:15 am)
Very nice. Enjoy it!
#29 of 132 Re: Looking at 09 (sorry about the prev. post) [ateixeira]
Aug 12, 2008 (5:20 pm)
Well I went to another dealer today and did another test drive. This time they actually let me drive the car alone. Interestingly, I did not have the issue of the hand brake pushing on my leg. I spent some time adjusting the seat and while its still a bit snug I was fine with it. It looks like this is going to be the car for me.
I found the second dealer much more easy going and didn't feel I was being hustled.
When I asked him about what adding leather, Sat.radio and 15000 mi would do to the lease price he gave me a detailed discussion of the cost of these items and the residuals effect on them. Bottom line what the other dealer wanted $100/mo more for, he wanted $50/mo for. I called the other dealer back and he wouldn't budge even though the salesman admitted there might be something to my claim that you can't charge me the full price of an option when the car has an 80% residual (unbelievable that number). I think I'm going with the second dealer especially since he indicated that a free loaner would be given with all service calls.
Will need to wait a bit for the color choice to come in but I'm totally happy with this choice. It's kind of a relief to finally have closure on this as I've been looking for what seems an endless amount of time.
This is a conservatively styled but attractive car with a high quality interior and a ton of options for a price in the low 20's. The idea of spending 10k more for a so-called entry level luxury car is waste of money in my opinion.
#30 of 132 Re: Looking at 09 (sorry about the prev. post) [altimate]
Aug 12, 2008 (6:09 pm)
I've unfortunately gained about 30lb in the last year and now am 6'0" 250
I'm 5'10, 300lb, while not as comfy as my Armada my LGT is not bad to drive for 2 or 3 hrs. I wouldn't drive cross country in it, but I can adjust it well enough for me. If you can wait til the spring, the 2010 model will be here and it's supposed to be significantly larger.
#31 of 132 Re: Looking at 09 (sorry about the prev. post) [paisan]
Aug 12, 2008 (7:25 pm)
Hopefully by next spring I'll get rid of those 30 extra pounds. Easier said than done, of course. Regardless, I'm set on the 09 Legacy.
#32 of 132 Re: Looking at 09 (sorry about the prev. post) [altimate]
Aug 12, 2008 (7:47 pm)
Well at least you are probably getting the most refined version of the 4th generation of Legacy. Last build year usually is best IMO.
#33 of 132 Re: Looking at 09 (sorry about the prev. post) [paisan]
Aug 13, 2008 (6:29 am)
Mike, if you lost about a 100 pounds, your track lap times would drop—and your lifespan will increase. 300 pounds at your height is not good. Any doctor will tell you that.
I'm 5'9" and 200 pounds and my doctor is constantly telling me to lose another 30 pounds.
It may not seem important now, but it will when you get to my age—assuming you do get to my age.