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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Sedan, Wagon
#103 of 132 Re: 2009 now on Edmund's... [rla26368]
Oct 02, 2008 (1:52 pm)
I've had that on several cars.
Get some of that self-adhesive stuff you put on the bottom of chairs to protect floors. They are usually soft wool and would quiet that rattle down.
#104 of 132 Re: 09 SE Heat Issue? [robsis]
Oct 03, 2008 (4:50 pm)
Took it in this morning. Had it back by 2:00 p.m. DX: First said it had some heater switch turned off, but then decided to replace heater control module. It seems fine now. Best part of the experience was this small dealership had no lines or delays for service and provided a loaner. I was literally in and out in 10 minutes.
The loaner was a low end Impreza 5 door. I have to tell you when I returned to my car this afternoon I felt like I was getting into a Bentley. The Impreza had not one speck of interior that wasn't rock hard ugly black plastic.
Once again I'm amazed at the high level of interior quality on the Legacy. The car has soft touch material almost everywhere.Only the far bottom of the doors has any hard material. Even the center console has carpeting on the sides. Not only feels great, but looks great everywhere.
My one very minor complaint. The XM on the Subaru does not scroll songs or other information. A relative who is an enginner for Ford told me that Subaru is skimping on the system. For another $5-10 per car the additional software to provide this information would be available. Considering that the XM install on Subarus is pretty pricey you would think they could provide this upgrade.
#105 of 132 Re: 09 SE Heat Issue? [altimate]
Oct 05, 2008 (7:41 am)
Glad it was an easy, fast fix....
Now, as to your Sat comment, I'll need to borrow the car from the owner (my wife!) and check that out...I have Sirius; however, I can't see that it would make a difference from XM. That does sound goofy if it is just a software thing...and they just don't add a line of code or something.....
Now, on to your interior quality comment.....we just got done riding in a new '09 Lincoln MKZ AWD. Nice car; however, for an extra 13k over what we paid, I certainly didn't think the interior was any nicer than the Leggy. I must admit, tho, that the V6 in the Lincoln was nice...but not nice enough to warrant the extra ching by any stretch....especially considering that if we wanted the same luxury with more power we can opt for the flat 6 or the turbo, both of which are still substantially cheaper that the Lincoln...
#106 of 132 Re: 09 SE Heat Issue? [robsis]
Oct 05, 2008 (7:05 pm)
I guess money isn't as tight as I think. For people to spend 10-15K more for an "entry level" luxury car makes no sense to me. Then again, maybe they've never even considered or even looked at a Legacy.
Years ago, I dreamed of owning a Jag XJ. Finally made the move in the early 90's on a good lease deal (if a 500+ payment for 4 yrs. is a good deal). I loved the leather and wood interior. Funny thing though, after about a year the car became just an appliance and seemed no better or worse than much less expensive cars.
Since then I've always looked at value for money as the primary consideration in a vehicle purchase. If that value for money deal could give me a quality interior then I would be ecstatic. Well the 09 Legacy SE has gone above and beyond.
It's funny I have a strange kind of buyer's remorse. Because the residual on the lease is so high (making the payment so cheap) I doubt I'd be willing to buy the car off lease. Here I've had the car less than two weeks and I'm already contemplating wanting to keep it forever. Well, the 2010 will be a major overhaul so time will tell whether that will be more or less appealing than the current model.
#107 of 132 Re: 09 SE Heat Issue? [altimate]
Oct 11, 2008 (5:48 am)
Question regarding the Yokohama tires on the `09 Legacy Limited...
I recently read an article about Grip vs. Durability, related specifically to the tread life. Can anyone recommend a good brand / model of tire for long-term tread life (we're talking 4+ years)? I've had some issues with previous cars (my 2000 Civic in particular) needing new tires about every 3 years - and I was told it wasn't caused by my driving habits, it was evenly worn.
#108 of 132 Re: 09 SE Heat Issue? [pilot1226]
Oct 12, 2008 (4:44 pm)
Why would you want tires that last 4 years? Generally the rubber compound is going to only last at the very best 3-4 years from the date of manufacture. I have been known to toss tires after 2 years of use, not due to worn tread but lack of adhesion. What happens over time is the rubber breaks down and becomes more brittle and "hard". Once this happens your lateral grip on them diminishes greatly. There may be plenty of tread but the rubber simply isn't sticking to the ground.
For an all season tire, my favorite is the Sumitomo HTR+, they are very inexpensive and while they wear out usually in about 25k miles, the inexpensive price outweighs the short life.
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#109 of 132 Re: 09 SE Heat Issue? [pilot1226]
Oct 17, 2008 (9:09 pm)
We've been happy with Goodyear Assurance Triple Tred on our 2002 Outback.
Good all around traction- laterally, starting, braking and in rain. Much better than the OEM Bridgestones which were replaced at 24K. The Goodyears have been on about three years now that's about 36K. I agree with the other poster that I change tires as soon as they start to feel at all slippery, and that is often at around 5- 32nds which is about 50% of full tread depth when new.
I never get the miles that some claim to get from their tires.
Oct 29, 2008 (10:58 am)
Today, when I started my Legacy, everything seemed fine with exception to stereo and climate control displays were not working. I turned the car off and on another three times and the issue didn't resolve itself. Also, the ambient lighting in that area wasn't working. It affected the shift lighting too. The information center, (outside temp, time etc) worked fine, and so did the seat heaters as well as the light indicating the seat heater was on. All functions of the tachometer, speedometer, odometer, etc, worked fine as well.
I drove into town with the car like that. After getting to work, I turned the car off and asked a friend to assist me checking the brake lights to make sure they worked, as well as blinkers and such, (my thinking was it might have been a blown fuse). When I turned the ignition again, the stereo and climate control displays were all visible again.
I called the mechanic at my Subaru dealership and he said if it was presently working, the computer wouldn't find anything wrong. He said to keep an eye on it and if it continues happening regularly, they'll look into it, as I have lots of warranty time left.
I thought it strange the displays would be nonexistent, yet the stereo and heater and such operated normally. I just couldn't see to change anything if I had wanted to.
Overall, I thought it bizarre, and that maybe my car has attracted a spectre of some sort
#111 of 132 Re: 09 SE Heat Issue? [surrfurtom]
Oct 30, 2008 (5:14 am)
Thanks for the response. I've been reading up on the different tires lately and I've been leaning towards GoodYear too when the time comes to replace the Yokohamas.
Mike: Sorry, I didn't mean to give the impression that I would ride them bald to the 4 year mark... I just was a little perturbed at the fact that I felt like I was getting new tires all the time for my Civic despite the fact that I am very good about maintenance and rotations... My wife, for example, never does tire rotations and her Firestone Firehawks lasted from the original purchase date in 2001 until 2006. She playfully mocks me constantly about my "abusive driving" habits and having to get tires for the Civ every few years.
But, that being said, I think a lot has to do with the fact that I'm buying a promotional brand of tire, like Kelly Navigators, that are $40 each.
On the plus side, when the Legacy is paid off in another 2 1/2 years or when the Nissan quits (whichever happens first), we plan on getting a new Outback. My wife has snookered the Legacy somehow (still not quite sure how she did it...) and I'm driving the 2001 Nissan Sentra.
#112 of 132 Re: 09 SE Heat Issue? [pilot1226]
Oct 30, 2008 (11:34 am)
If your Sentra is anything like the one I bought new in 1992, took good care of and sold to my brother-in-law a few years ago, you'll be paying off the Legacy first. That Sentra now has 325,000 miles and is still going strong!