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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Sedan, Wagon
#2 of 132 Re: 2009 now on Edmund's... [pilot1226]
Jun 29, 2008 (5:14 pm)
I'm please that Subaru will now offer the Legacy with a 3.0 non-Limited model. I noticed, however, that the 3.0 does not have the Bilstein sport suspension. It's only on the 3.0 Limited. I'm curious what the difference is between the standard suspension and the sport suspension? How noticeable is the difference while driving? Is it possible to retrofit the sport suspension to the standard 3.0 model? Thanks for any feedback.
#3 of 132 Re: 2009 now on Edmund's... [cd68]
Jun 29, 2008 (5:34 pm)
You can retro fit it, however its not simply the bilstien suspension. There are lighter aluminum control arms and some other bits I think that differentiate the Spec B and 3.0R v. the non Spec B and 3.0R models.
I have an 05 LGT non-limited and on-track it's very well behaved but I have a lot more body roll than I'd like. I'm currently looking at upgrades for it to make it more track worthy since I just sold my Subaru race car and I'll need something to take to the track. Here is a list of items I'm looking to do to bring it up to spec:
Koni Sport Struts
Whiteline Sway Bars
Downpipe of some sort
Uppipe of some sort
Hawk HP+ Pads
I already have:
SPT Cat-back exhaust
Wider rims with 235-45-17 Tires
Summer Tires Currently Yokohama Advan 048s, may be switching to Pole Position RE01Rs next time around.
Other than that my car should be pretty well setup for doing HPDE, Time Trials and lots of fun on the street. I'm actually going to be entering into a One-Lap of America type competition (just shorter) later this year called the Southern Sprints. We'll see how well the car does at that.
#4 of 132 Re: 2009 now on Edmund's... [paisan]
Jun 29, 2008 (6:58 pm)
Thanks for your reply. Wow - it does seem like there's more to the retrofit than I originally thought. From a price standpoint, is it worth doing the retrofit, or is it better to just purchase the Limited model that has the sport suspension?
The problem is that I much prefer the cloth interior to leather - especially living in hot and sunny California, so that's why I was thinking the 3.0 would be preferred to the 3.0 Limited.
#5 of 132 Re: 2009 now on Edmund's... [cd68]
Jun 29, 2008 (7:22 pm)
I'll be honest, if you aren't planning on tracking the car and even if you are, unless you have a lot of experience (I'm an experienced racer and track instructor) you won't notice the difference between the stock suspension and the "sport" one on the 3.0R/Spec B
If you are experienced, like I am, then even the stuff in the 3.0R/Spec B suspension won't be enough for you to not tinker with it. The only reason to get the Spec B I would say is the 6MT trans, mechanical rear diffy, and the VDC.
So I'd say go for the non-limited (that's what I have) and then you can slowly build up if you feel you need it.
#6 of 132 Re: 2009 now on Edmund's... [paisan]
Jun 29, 2008 (7:49 pm)
Mike - nope, I'm definitely not experienced here. Thanks very much for your comments. The standard 3.0 should be just what I'm looking for. Hopefully they'll start showing up at the dealerships pretty soon.
#7 of 132 Re: 2009 now on Edmund's... [cd68]
Jul 07, 2008 (7:46 pm)
I am seriously considering an '09 Legacy Wagon or Outback but am very concerned about some of the issues I am seeing about '06+ models. Any Sube owners wanna chime in? I presently own a GM SUV and hav no interest in bringing my vehicle to the dealer for warranty issues every other month as I have for the last 3 years!
#8 of 132 Re: 2009 now on Edmund's... [speedingticket]
Jul 08, 2008 (7:20 am)
Keep in mind that people seek out boards like these to report problems and try to find solutions.
The Legacy is generally very reliable, far better than average.
#9 of 132 Re: 2009 now on Edmund's... [ateixeira]
Jul 08, 2008 (5:33 pm)
Yup I have an 05 LGT Wagon 5MT, no issues to speak of at 59k miles.
#10 of 132 Re: 2009 now on Edmund's... [speedingticket]
Jul 09, 2008 (7:58 am)
We have a 2001 Outback and a 2003 Chevy Tahoe(bought used in 2004). The Outback has been in the shop twice for fixes beyond normal maint. If I recall each was for a sensor. I currently have 130K on the Outback. The Tahoe has been in the shop twice. Once for automatic locks and another for a paint warranty issue. Tahoe has 75K on it.
General maintainance for the Tahoe has been less.
I enjoy filling the Outback with gas more than the Tahoe, since I typically get 28mpg with the outback vs.19 with the Tahoe. (highway miles)