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#14 of 23 Re: it's not just [nippononly] by cooterbfd

Jul 16, 2008 (3:05 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Jul 15, 2008 7:31 pm)
Yeah, the Jeep brand carries a lot of cache' with it, and the products fair better than their Chrysler counterparts when it comes to comparisons.

#15 of 23 Re: it's not just [cooterbfd] by nippononly

Jul 16, 2008 (8:16 am)

Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 16, 2008 3:05 am)
Yeah, but most are gas guzzlers and tanking sales reflect that fact. What have they got going up in sales? The silly little Patriot that has been accused of not being a "real" Jeep? Even that one can only manage early 20s for mileage, and when they say sales of that model are up, total unit sales are pretty low for a volume brand.

#16 of 23 Re: it's not just [nippononly] by nortsr1

Jul 16, 2008 (12:19 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jul 16, 2008 8:16 am)
Do they still make and sell Jeeps to the U.S. Govt.????

#17 of 23 Re: it's not just [nortsr1] by nippononly

Jul 16, 2008 (12:31 pm)

Replying to: nortsr1 (Jul 16, 2008 12:19 pm)
What, like for combat?

#18 of 23 Re: it's not just [nippononly] by nortsr1

Jul 16, 2008 (12:58 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jul 16, 2008 12:31 pm)
yes, for combat areas and around the Army, Navy Marine bases here and the bases we have all over the rest of the world.

#19 of 23 Re: it's not just [nortsr1] by nippononly

Jul 16, 2008 (1:18 pm)

Replying to: nortsr1 (Jul 16, 2008 12:58 pm)
Not sure, but I think Jeeps have been totally replaced by Hummers and their ilk.
 
Saw today in a news article on GM that most analysts expect Hummer to sell for less than a billion dollars. And that is with all the investment made in the dealer network, new models, and whatnot in the last five years.
 
Can Jeep really be worth so much more than Hummer?

#20 of 23 Jeep vs. Hummer by 1stpik

Jul 16, 2008 (1:43 pm)

"Can Jeep really be worth so much more than Hummer?"
 
Sure it can. First of all, people are buying plenty of Jeeps, especially the Patriot, because they get real off-road capability and a bit of fuel efficiency, as well -- 4WD model averages 22 mpg.
 
Nobody's buying Hummers because they're too expensive to take off-road, they guzzle a gallon of gas every 10 miles, and they've become vandalism targets for the eco-wackos. They used to have some brag value as suburban cruisers -- "Look at me everyone! I can spend a lot of money trying to look tough!" But that pony has done its trick, and now everyone's bored with it.
 
Look at the numbers: A new Hummer H3 costs $31,000. A one-year-old H3 with 12,000 miles in "good" condition has a KBB trade-in value of $15,200.
 
A new Jeep Patriot 4WD costs $18,000, and after a year it's worth $12,000.
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#21 of 23 Re: it's not just [nippononly] by steve_ HOST

Jul 16, 2008 (3:11 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jul 16, 2008 1:18 pm)
Don't know about Jeeps but I think the military still buys a lot of pickups and other trucks.
 
Does America Even Need Its Own Automakers? may be of interest.

#22 of 23 It's getting darker... by circlew

Jul 16, 2008 (8:03 pm)

The smell of blood is in the air...
 

 
Regards,
OW

#23 of 23 Re: It's getting darker... [circlew] by nippononly

Jul 16, 2008 (9:45 pm)

Replying to: circlew (Jul 16, 2008 8:03 pm)
Good one!

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