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Re: Cobalt-air conditioner problem [spartaeus]
by p100
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Oct 31, 2008 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: spartaeus (Jul 07, 2008 7:29 am)
This info is the last straw. I was trying hard to make up my mind to buy or not to buy a new '08 Cobalt as I have substantial GM card rebates and the car could be bought at a low price. If GM has stooped this low and they are using defective Chinese made A/C compressors now, they can keep this car.
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Re: Cobalt-air conditioner problem [p100]
by poncho167
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Oct 31, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: p100 (Oct 31, 2008 12:39 pm)
I don't think GM has stooped any lower than anyone else. Everyone is using Chinese made parts. In fact, Toyota and GM share some parts along with other auto manufactures. You would be surprised where auto manufactures get their parts from nowadays. GM was forced to outsource its parts from over seas to stay competive because all the Japanese car makers import their parts.
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Re: Cobalt-air conditioner problem [poncho167]
by exdelphi
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Nov 24, 2008 (4:39 pm)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Oct 31, 2008 3:17 pm)
To Poncho 167,You are half right. It is true that GM thinks that their way to salvation is buying anything made in China. However, the Japanese transplants purchase a high % of their parts here in the US. The Japanese do not see an advantage to ship an item half way across the world, when they can obtain it locally. GM has told it's suppliers to move to China.
I worked at the Moraine plant, 21years. I worked on the R4,DA/H6,CVC6,CVC7 compressor lines, mostly machining. The compressors made at Moraine achieved world class quality, that was before the closing of the "new"Moraine plant,Aug,312007. 1 line went to China, and 3 lines went to Mexico. Nothing gets done in China without "greasing" the workers. The Mexico plant can not get the quality, or the production numbers. Have heard that they are moving everything to China soon. We were a dedicated workforce, inspite of the incompetent management. BTW we were IUE not UAW. We had 3 pay tiers, no pension for new workers, half pay to start, 15 years to reach pay parity. Even an agreement till 2011, that Delphi broke.
As for the compressor that will not work, shaft failures were virtually unheardof.
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Re: Cobalt-air conditioner problem [spartaeus]
by exdelphi
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Nov 24, 2008 (4:51 pm)
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Replying to: spartaeus (Jun 18, 2008 11:37 am)
If anyone has a Cobalt compressor that is running, but not cooling, try this. Check for the correct R 134a pressure. When they changed over from the Cavalier to the Cobalt, Lordstown had a problem with getting the correct freon pressure. The pressure changed(went down) with the Cobalt, therefore some of the Cobalts were overcharged. There were several notices sent out, but were slow to correct at Lordstown. This was in the first year of production.
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Re: Cobalt-air conditioner problem [exdelphi]
by dispencer2
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Dec 18, 2008 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: exdelphi (Nov 24, 2008 4:39 pm)
No problems so far on an 09 Cobalt LT1 delivered in September. AC worked fine and the heater is the best of any car I've ever owned. I have to turn it down most of the time . It really puts out hot air - a politician would love the Cobalt.
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