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#7 of 14
GMPP by pao
Jul 06, 2008 (5:59 am)
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we too purchased an extended plan for out 06 Pontiac Solstice.....best prices around from Blacks...easy to deal with....all over the phone... and received the documentationw within a few days....
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Is Black's Warranty the Real GMPP? by bwia
Jul 06, 2008 (10:20 am)
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I spoke with a GMPP representative last Thursday and he was convinced that the reason Black's warranty price is so low is because it not the real GMPP. What gives!
 
Can anybody confirm that? And when it comes to filing a claim has Blacks honored the warranty without hassles?
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Re: Is Black's Warranty the Real GMPP? [bwia] by pao
Jul 06, 2008 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: bwia (Jul 06, 2008 10:20 am)

and what GMPP rep did you talk too..was it at a dealership......we havent had to use it..but Blacks doest honor it....your servicing dealership does.....and it is a GM GMPP insurance card that is issued.....the reason the prices are so low is that other dealers jack up the prices so high....and Blacks sells by the volume....it is a legtimate GMPP plan
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Re: Is Black's Warranty the Real GMPP? [pao] by malexbu
Jul 07, 2008 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: pao (Jul 06, 2008 5:46 pm)

That's actually a damn good question...
 
After I got my warranty from Black's, I did two things:
 
1. I tried to figure out, using GMPP's online site, if that was the
   true GMPP plan.
 
   Sadly, I came to the conclusion that it was likelier a "non-true"
   GMPP plan, whatever that meant.
 
   The card and brochure artfully mimic the genuine plan's docs -- but
   they are not identical to the genuine ones (I don't remember how.)
 
2. I showed the card and brochure to my dealer and he said it was "the
   plan" -- but it was not that car's service visit, so they really
   didn't look into it in earnest.
 
So, I don't know: I hope Black sold me what I thought was the GMPP
plan, but I am not sure. I'd love to hear from somebody who did try
to use a Black-purchased plan for a real repair.
 
Anybody?
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Re: Is Black's Warranty the Real GMPP? [malexbu] by busiris
Jul 08, 2008 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: malexbu (Jul 07, 2008 7:34 pm)

That's actually a damn good question...
  
After I got my warranty from Black's, I did two things:
  
1. I tried to figure out, using GMPP's online site, if that was the
   true GMPP plan.
  
   Sadly, I came to the conclusion that it was likelier a "non-true"
   GMPP plan, whatever that meant.
  
   The card and brochure artfully mimic the genuine plan's docs -- but
   they are not identical to the genuine ones (I don't remember how.)
  
2. I showed the card and brochure to my dealer and he said it was "the
   plan" -- but it was not that car's service visit, so they really
   didn't look into it in earnest.
  
So, I don't know: I hope Black sold me what I thought was the GMPP
plan, but I am not sure. I'd love to hear from somebody who did try
to use a Black-purchased plan for a real repair.

 
I know nothing about these plans, but I do know something about the legal aspects.
 
I would ask these questions...
 
Exactly how is the plan presented? Is the documentation the same as the GM plan's documentation? What does the contract say?
 
These questions should all be answered in the documentation you received, If it is different, and the documentation provided with the plan states that it is different...you are probably screwed.
 
However, if the sales agent is representing it as the GM plan, and providing original GM documentation, then the dealer is in for a bout of lawsuits, which he will eventually lose.
 
In my experience, I can't imaging a dealer would be dumb enough to sell bogus labeled extended warranties through his dealership. He might, however, have a different company selling them under an "umbrella" arrangement, which he can close up at the first sign of problems.
 
I would be highly surprised for that to be the case, but things like that have been know to happen.
 
So, to summarize...examine the documentation. If it isn't crystal clear that it is a GM policy, more than likely you have purchased a "knock-off" policy...ie.,you have been flim-flammed...
 
Good Luck!
#12 of 14
by malexbu
Jul 08, 2008 (6:41 pm)
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I would be highly surprised for that to be the case, but things
like that have been know to happen.
  
So, to summarize...examine the documentation. If it isn't crystal
clear that it is a GM policy, more than likely you have purchased a
"knock-off" policy...ie.,you have been flim-flammed...

 
Thanks... As I said, examining the documentation left me with mixed
feelings, when I did it back in May.
 
Of course, I searched Web for any red flags and couldn't see any --
BBB was positive on Black's.
 
At the time, I found some site where one could enter the GMPP plan number,
from the card -- and it didn't accept mine. That was discomforting,
but I can't find that site now and repeat the experiment.
 
Just looked at the agreement text again, and compared it with what's
available online -- no reasons to worry from that.
 
But it would be helpful to hear from somebody who actually used the
coverage -- i.e. purchased at Black, used elsewhere.
 
I am 99% sure everything is all right, but getting rid of the
remaining one percent wouldn't hurt
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by Martypa
Nov 14, 2008 (7:51 am)
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I purchased an 08 2LT in May. My father worked for GM so I got the employee price. The F&I guy wanted to give me a "deal" on a 5 yr, 75k GMPP extended warranty for $1400.00. After I laughed out loud he came down to $1000.00. I told him I would give him 50.00 over his price and he countered with 75, so I purchased it....for around $750.00 if I recall. I made him show me his price book.
 
Ironically, the day after purchase I compared the GM employee price I received on the website, gmfamilyfirst.com, with the price the dealer charged me which was, surprisingly, $300.00 higher. It was fixed when I brought it to the attention of the dealer, with no explanation.
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Re: 2008 Extended Warranty [wlbrown9] by e_net_rider
Sep 14, 2009 (3:07 am)
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Replying to: wlbrown9 (Jul 03, 2008 8:53 am)

Tax laws also vary by state. Many states tax finished goods only and sometimes drugs or food are exempt. That is no tax on labor. Would you pay sales tax if you purchased life insurance? Some businesses are pocketing the money collected.

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