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2008 Extended Warranty by bwia
Jun 12, 2008 (3:52 am)
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Does buying an extended warranty make economic sense considering the purported quality improvement in the 2008 Malibu?
 
We just received an "invitation" to purchase a GM Protection plan that would extend the basic manufacturers' warranty.
 
Here are the details of the two plans they offered although other terms are available online at http://www.gmpponline.com
 
Plan A
5 Years/100,000 miles:
$1,390 with $200 deductible
$1,550 with $100 deductible
$1,730 with $0 deductible
 
Plan B
5 Years/75,000 miles
$990 with $200 deductible
$1,140 with $100 deductible
$1,350 with $0 deductible
 
To scare you into buying these plans they show the representative costs for typical repairs:
Air conditioning compressor................$1,198
Sunroof module /assembly..................$1,214
Fuel tank..............................................$1,044
Steering column assembly...................$ 927
Radiator...............................................$ 840
 
Since we intend to drive the car for at least 7 years there is a strong argument for purchasing the warranty.
 
What do you boardies think. Should we buy the GM warranty or should we pass at this time?
 
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Re: 2008 Extended Warranty [bwia] by pao
Jun 12, 2008 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: bwia (Jun 12, 2008 3:52 am)

its nothing more than an insurance policy...you are betting you will need it and the company is betting you will not use it....shop around and you will find better deals on the GMPP plan as well....google it and you will be amazed at the number of GM dealers that will sell you the same plan at a much reduced rate that you see in your ad.
 
with the current warranty on the drive train......the rest of the mechanics is what you are betting will fail..the other consideration is how long do you intend to keep the car and how much you drive mileage wise
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Re: 2008 Extended Warranty [pao] by bwia
Jun 13, 2008 (5:14 am)
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Replying to: pao (Jun 12, 2008 6:48 am)

Basically I agree with you that a warranty is essentially an insurance policy. So one should insure against risk he is unwilling or unable to tolerate. The amount one is willing to pay for that insurance depends on the 'real' risk and not the perceived risk so that's where quality and reliability issues come in.
 
Most everyone agrees that the 2008 Malibu's quality is significantly better than the prior model(s) but the compressor in our new Malibu failed upon first use. The dealership said the unit was defective and replaced it under warranty. Therefore, this experience leaves me less confident and more likely to buy the warranty even though I know it is not likely to payoff economically. I read somewhere online that for every $1,000 spent to purchase a warranty only $250 is recovered in claims. That's a high price to pay for peace of mind though....which reminds me of the old Fram TV commercial, pay me now or pay me later.
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Re: 2008 Extended Warranty [bwia] by bryan
Jun 13, 2008 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: bwia (Jun 13, 2008 5:14 am)

http://www.gmoutlet.com/quote/emailserver/majorguard/mgn_email2008.htm
This link takes you to the Black Pontiac Cadillac extended warranty page. They will sell GMPP warranties at substantial discounts. I got this from post #2218 in the Extended Warranties thread on the Smart Shopper board. It's easy to follow; 08 Malibu is a Class B; go to Class B Table and choose what works for you.
 
When I went through finance, the guy tried to sell me a non-GM extended warranty for $1700. After I had a great laugh, he then quoted me the GMPP extended warranty (72 months, 60,000 miles) for $1270. That's when I pulled out the full print out from the Black Pontiac site, and said this discounted price is the price I'm willing to pay, or I'll just get it through them. He agreed to match it.
 
So, I ended up with an extended the warranty on my 08 Malibu to 6 years, 60K miles, NO deductible for $835 through my selling dealer. I think you can contact Black Pontiac directly and add the extended warranty after the sale depending upon how old a vehicle is and what the mileage is. Definitely worth looking at.
 
Hope this helps you--using the Edmunds automotive forums saved me $435!
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Re: 2008 Extended Warranty [bwia] by sgr5516
Jun 16, 2008 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: bwia (Jun 12, 2008 3:52 am)

I have purchased several GMPP Major Guard plans with $0 deductible from Blacks Pontiac. I do it for peace of mind, since I keep my cars for 6-7 years and you never know what can go wrong. If car is kept overnight for a warranty repair or it will take more than 2 hrs to complete a covered repair, the GMPP covers the cost of a rental car (if your dealer does not have loaner cars). This is good if you have to go to work and can't take time off to get your car fixed. You also get roadside assistance until the GMPP expires. If you sell the car before the GMPP expires, the time left on the GMPP can be transferred to new owner. A good selling point.
 
I just fill out the form, printed it out and mail it to Blacks with a check. They usually give you another $50 dollars off of the discounted price at the bottom of the form. They charge a processing fee if you pay by credit card.
 
The other thing dealers try to tell you is that you have to purchase right away or else the price is more. You can purchase a GMPP plan any time during the 3 yr/36k mi basic warranty. The price does go up after 12 mo/12k miles. Then after 12 mo, the price increases again at 24k.
 
Also, the clock starts ticking on the GMPP on the date and mileage you purchase it. So to get the best value, it pays to wait until just before 12 mo or 12k miles to purchase it at the new car prices. You basically then get an extra year/12k miles of coverage for the same price , which you would not get if you purchase it at the same time you purchased the vehicle. When you fill out the form for Blacks you just tell them your current months and miles since new. They use honor system and don't check what you put on the form.
 
Blacks usually sets their prices once a year in October. So if you purchase from them after October, the price may be higher. Another thing to consider when timing your purchase.
 
For the two plans your dealer quoted, the Black's price from their cost sheet is
For 5/100/$0, $1155, a savings of $575. For 5/75/$0, $825, a savings of $525. You save another $50 if they give that discount on the form.
 
Good Luck with your car, no matter what you decide to do regarding a GMPP.
 
I have an 06 Malibu Maxx.
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Re: 2008 Extended Warranty [sgr5516] by wlbrown9
Jul 03, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: sgr5516 (Jun 16, 2008 6:08 pm)

One other thing about buying from Black's or another of the discount GMPP dealers. In many cases if you purchase out of state, you do not pay sales tax. Example, in Tennessee I pay 9.25% sales tax on the purchase even if the dealer matches the price. So, buying locally a $1000 GMPP would cost me $1092.50 with the added tax. If I bought it from an out of state dealer that does not charge sales tax it would cost me $1000. IIRC Black's is in Penn.
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GMPP by pao
Jul 06, 2008 (5:59 am)
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we too purchased an extended plan for out 06 Pontiac Solstice.....best prices around from Blacks...easy to deal with....all over the phone... and received the documentationw within a few days....
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Is Black's Warranty the Real GMPP? by bwia
Jul 06, 2008 (10:20 am)
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I spoke with a GMPP representative last Thursday and he was convinced that the reason Black's warranty price is so low is because it not the real GMPP. What gives!
 
Can anybody confirm that? And when it comes to filing a claim has Blacks honored the warranty without hassles?
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Re: Is Black's Warranty the Real GMPP? [bwia] by pao
Jul 06, 2008 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: bwia (Jul 06, 2008 10:20 am)

and what GMPP rep did you talk too..was it at a dealership......we havent had to use it..but Blacks doest honor it....your servicing dealership does.....and it is a GM GMPP insurance card that is issued.....the reason the prices are so low is that other dealers jack up the prices so high....and Blacks sells by the volume....it is a legtimate GMPP plan
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Re: Is Black's Warranty the Real GMPP? [pao] by malexbu
Jul 07, 2008 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: pao (Jul 06, 2008 5:46 pm)

That's actually a damn good question...
 
After I got my warranty from Black's, I did two things:
 
1. I tried to figure out, using GMPP's online site, if that was the
   true GMPP plan.
 
   Sadly, I came to the conclusion that it was likelier a "non-true"
   GMPP plan, whatever that meant.
 
   The card and brochure artfully mimic the genuine plan's docs -- but
   they are not identical to the genuine ones (I don't remember how.)
 
2. I showed the card and brochure to my dealer and he said it was "the
   plan" -- but it was not that car's service visit, so they really
   didn't look into it in earnest.
 
So, I don't know: I hope Black sold me what I thought was the GMPP
plan, but I am not sure. I'd love to hear from somebody who did try
to use a Black-purchased plan for a real repair.
 
Anybody?

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