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Coupes & Convertibles Porsche 911 Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera/Carrera S First Look and Drive
21 messages, Last post on Aug 22, 2008 at 5:24 AM
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Replying to: jfjr (Jun 15, 2008 7:48 am) I am happy to debate - and even take the Honda side - of the S2000 being a better value than the base Boxster. But a Caddy vs. a 911? Please. I'd take a $20k Honda Accord, give you stop light bragging rights, and have a far, far superior car in terms of construction quality and long term value. Enjoy your new Caddy for the next 4-5 years but don't do the math - you might find out that you paid more in depreciation than a 911 would have cost you and then be embarassed by the lack of value - to go along with the inevitable rattles and other insults that GM throws at you. |
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if passing a test should be required to post?
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Replying to: dhamilton (Jun 18, 2008 5:29 am) However, of the things that I've learned to do when I see something particularly outrageous is to check out the Poster's history to see if it was their "first Post", as this generally correlates to it being a malicious troll instead of a regular participant. In the specific case of [jfjr]: Member Since: June 12, 2008 Last Login: June 16, 2008 No Name, no Bio, no Location. Thus, no credibility to speak of. FYI, he's also popped up this week on motortrend's blog: JFJr (Yesterday 01:20 PM) "I believe that a "greenie weenie" stumbled on to this blog by mistake. Wouldn't a "performance" version of a plug-in hybrid Prius be a hoot? Could you image the size of the owner's electricity bill charging it every month and the cost of imminent battery replacement after a few runs down Al Gore's driveway? Ha Haa!" JFjr wasn't quite so childish in his posts here, but give him the rope to hang himself and he invariably will. -hh |
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Replying to: KarenS (Jun 11, 2008 8:46 am) The article states: "Up front, the Carrera wears 13.0-by-1.3-inch discs, an upgrade over last year's 12.5-by-1.1-inch set. The rear discs are the same diameter as the fronts, though they're only 1.1 inches thick." In the US Order Guide, dated 6/12/2008, the following is indicated for the base 3.6l Carrera: "12.5” vented and perforated rotors w/ 4 piston monobloc enclosed calipers – front; 11.8” vented and perforated rotors w/ 4 piston monobloc black calipers - rear.” 911's for European Union countries still get the 13" disks. Is the US getting the "old" 2008 model brake systems?
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Wow, there's nothing like jumping to conclusions and getting emotional. Why would anyone seriously compare a 4200#, manual transmission, 4-door sedan to a 2-door sports car? My thought was to compare the various iterations of the current C6 Corvette (base, Z51, Z06 and ZR1) to the Porsche counterparts and see how the value comparisons work. And by the way, how about the "value" of that $440,00+ v10 Porsche "supercar" a few years back? What do you think would happen if any other major American car manufacturer had been given that high a budget for a sports car?
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Replying to: heckmotor (Jun 22, 2008 4:34 pm) That's the information that I've received.
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Replying to: jfjr (Jun 22, 2008 4:45 pm) They wouldn't. "My thought was to compare the various iterations of the current C6 Corvette (base, Z51, Z06 and ZR1) to the Porsche counterparts and see how the value comparisons work." So naturally you brought up the Cadillac CTS.  "how about the "value" of that $440,00+ v10 Porsche "supercar" a few years back?" Where's the value in a $55,000 Cadillac CTS-V when another well built, comfortable 4-door sedan costs only $15,000? I'm guessing you won't be in the market for these any time soon either... $2,000,000 helicopter:  $6,000,000 yacht:  $125,000,000 estate on 40 acres: 
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Jun 23, 2008 5:07 am) Anyway, I contacted Porsche Cars of North America today about this issue and requested clarification. Should get the answer in 2 to 3 days by email.
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Replying to: heckmotor (Jun 23, 2008 7:30 pm) I messed it up a bit. All models are receiving upgraded calipers. The entry level model is receiving upgraded front rotors. Rotors remain the same on S models. Below I lifted the information directly from the order guide. Carrera Coupe Braking System 12.5” vented and perforated rotors w/ 4 piston monobloc enclosed calipers – front, 11.8” vented and perforated rotors w/ 4 piston monobloc black calipers – rear. ABS 8.0 – Anti Lock Braking System, brake pad wear indicators, hand operated parking brake. Carrera S Coupe Braking System 13” vented and perforated rotors w/ 4 piston monobloc enclosed calipers – front & rear. ABS 8.0 – Anti Lock Braking System, brake pad wear indicators, hand operated parking brake. I hope that helps!
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Jun 24, 2008 5:18 am) But isn't that exactly what I wrote in my first message? Since my entry is exclusively about rotor size and the calipers for the 3.6 l Carrera, I left out the obvious, such as brake wear indicator, etc.
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