Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera/Carrera S First Look and Drive

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First Look: 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S - The 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S bring critical midcycle updates in what will be the fifth year of the 997-generation car. (more)

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#12 of 21 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look [KarenS] by heckmotor Jun 22, 2008 (5:34 pm)
Replying to: KarenS (Jun 11, 2008 9:46 am) I assume the details about the 2009 Carreras in the articel are based on the Porsche "Press Information". However, the information given about the brake upgrade of the base 2009 Carrera Coupe may not be correct for US models. The article states: "Up front, the Carrera wears 13.0-by-1.3-inch discs, an upgrade over last year's 12.5-by-1.1-inch set. The rear discs are the same diameter as the fronts, though they're only 1.1 inches thick." In the US Order Guide, dated 6/12/2008, the following is indicated for the base 3.6l Carrera: "12.5” vented and perforated rotors w/ 4 piston monobloc enclosed calipers – front; 11.8” vented and perforated rotors w/ 4 piston monobloc black calipers - rear.” 911's for European Union countries still get the 13" disks. Is the US getting the "old" 2008 model brake systems? Replies to this message: madmanmoo (Jun 23, 2008 6:07 am) heckmotor (Jun 23, 2008 8:30 pm) madmanmoo (Jun 24, 2008 6:18 am) and 2 more...
#13 of 21 Porsche Value? by jfjr Jun 22, 2008 (5:45 pm)
Wow, there's nothing like jumping to conclusions and getting emotional. Why would anyone seriously compare a 4200#, manual transmission, 4-door sedan to a 2-door sports car? My thought was to compare the various iterations of the current C6 Corvette (base, Z51, Z06 and ZR1) to the Porsche counterparts and see how the value comparisons work. And by the way, how about the "value" of that $440,00+ v10 Porsche "supercar" a few years back? What do you think would happen if any other major American car manufacturer had been given that high a budget for a sports car? Replies to this message: fedlawman (Jun 23, 2008 11:10 am)
#14 of 21 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look [heckmotor] by madmanmoo Jun 23, 2008 (6:07 am)
Replying to: heckmotor (Jun 22, 2008 5:34 pm) For U.S. models, the front brakes are being enlarged while the rear remain the same. That's the information that I've received. Replies to this message: heckmotor (Jun 23, 2008 8:30 pm) madmanmoo (Jun 24, 2008 6:18 am) heckmotor (Jun 24, 2008 5:09 pm) and 1 more...
#15 of 21 Re: Porsche Value? [jfjr] by fedlawman Jun 23, 2008 (11:10 am)
Replying to: jfjr (Jun 22, 2008 5:45 pm) "Why would anyone seriously compare a 4200#, manual transmission, 4-door sedan to a 2-door sports car?" They wouldn't. "My thought was to compare the various iterations of the current C6 Corvette (base, Z51, Z06 and ZR1) to the Porsche counterparts and see how the value comparisons work." So naturally you brought up the Cadillac CTS. "how about the "value" of that $440,00+ v10 Porsche "supercar" a few years back?" Where's the value in a $55,000 Cadillac CTS-V when another well built, comfortable 4-door sedan costs only $15,000? I'm guessing you won't be in the market for these any time soon either... $2,000,000 helicopter: $6,000,000 yacht: $125,000,000 estate on 40 acres:
#16 of 21 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look [madmanmoo] by heckmotor Jun 23, 2008 (8:30 pm)
Replying to: madmanmoo (Jun 23, 2008 6:07 am) That would be the third version... What is your source? Anyway, I contacted Porsche Cars of North America today about this issue and requested clarification. Should get the answer in 2 to 3 days by email. Replies to this message: madmanmoo (Jun 24, 2008 6:18 am) heckmotor (Jun 24, 2008 5:09 pm) madmanmoo (Jun 25, 2008 8:18 am)
#17 of 21 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look [heckmotor] by madmanmoo Jun 24, 2008 (6:18 am)
Replying to: heckmotor (Jun 23, 2008 8:30 pm) Heck, I messed it up a bit. All models are receiving upgraded calipers. The entry level model is receiving upgraded front rotors. Rotors remain the same on S models. Below I lifted the information directly from the order guide. Carrera Coupe Braking System 12.5” vented and perforated rotors w/ 4 piston monobloc enclosed calipers – front, 11.8” vented and perforated rotors w/ 4 piston monobloc black calipers – rear. ABS 8.0 – Anti Lock Braking System, brake pad wear indicators, hand operated parking brake. Carrera S Coupe Braking System 13” vented and perforated rotors w/ 4 piston monobloc enclosed calipers – front & rear. ABS 8.0 – Anti Lock Braking System, brake pad wear indicators, hand operated parking brake. I hope that helps! Replies to this message: heckmotor (Jun 24, 2008 5:09 pm) madmanmoo (Jun 25, 2008 8:18 am)
#18 of 21 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look [madmanmoo] by heckmotor Jun 24, 2008 (5:09 pm)
Replying to: madmanmoo (Jun 24, 2008 6:18 am) Thanks madmanmoo, But isn't that exactly what I wrote in my first message? Since my entry is exclusively about rotor size and the calipers for the 3.6 l Carrera, I left out the obvious, such as brake wear indicator, etc. Replies to this message: madmanmoo (Jun 25, 2008 8:18 am)
#19 of 21 Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look [heckmotor] by madmanmoo Jun 25, 2008 (8:18 am)
Replying to: heckmotor (Jun 24, 2008 5:09 pm) Pretty much the same thing. It appeared that you were asking if all of the 911's were getting the same brakes. I hope I didn't obfuscate the matter too much.
#20 of 21 RP by reidpetty Aug 21, 2008 (7:20 pm)
2009 911 TURBO COUPE WHAT ARE THE CHANGES FOR THE NEW 2009 PORSCHE 911 COUPE VS THE 2008 MODEL? Replies to this message: madmanmoo (Aug 22, 2008 6:24 am)
#21 of 21 Re: RP [reidpetty] by madmanmoo Aug 22, 2008 (6:24 am)
Replying to: reidpetty (Aug 21, 2008 7:20 pm) Technology upgrades. Like Bluetooth, Ipod hookup, touchscreen Nav. No PDK yet for them. They will also receive the slight reworking of the lights. No power or engine upgrade yet.