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Volkswagen Tiguan Lease Questions

142 messages,  Last post on Nov 10, 2009 at 8:57 AM

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#19 of 142
by ebetty
Oct 23, 2008 (5:43 am)
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I'm considering a lease on a 09 Tig SEL 4 mo, NAV, Pano and the best rate I'm getting is about $500/mo with $1000 down!!
 
(39 mo, 15k, .00185 money factor)
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Re: Money Factors [aramism] by stoopy
Oct 23, 2008 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: aramism (Oct 22, 2008 9:30 pm)

I have also been looking at the Tiguan. The lowest monthly payment I've been quoted was $430 on an S model. Sticker was $29,000 something. I would like to know where you are getting this $429 on a $37,000 Tiguan. When you get the car can you fax my dealer the paperwork? Seriously, it is a VERY good deal.
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Re: Money Factors [stoopy] by indianajohns
Oct 23, 2008 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: stoopy (Oct 23, 2008 7:25 pm)

The guy didn't actually lease this vehicle. This is just a "QUOTE" he had emailed to him or whatever. I also would like to see a copy of this lease contract, if he ever actually gets the car for this price, which is unlikely.
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Re: Money Factors [indianajohns] by aramism
Oct 23, 2008 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: indianajohns (Oct 23, 2008 8:21 pm)

i don't understand how hard it is to just plug in the numbers. the dealer committed to the sales price, and the MF and residual is what it is.
 
it's not brain surgery. funny every car i've gotten people have told me i will never get what i said i was going to get and sure enough i do. it's pretty simple, negotiate the sales price (cap cost) and the MF and residual are what they are.
 
for the record i was not emailed something this is something i went over in person. do yourself a favor and google a car lease calculator and input the numbers i have said and you get that payment. the fact that this is so unbelievable is the reason car dealers exist, consumers that just lay down on what they are told. there is a "skeleton" to any transaction, instead of just fishing for the lowest payment, better to understand how leases work and negotiate inside out as opposed to letting them play smoke and mirrors with payments. same thing with any loan. people 3 years ago that only cared about interest rates never bothered to look at loan amounts, amortization type, the breakdown of the loan, payoffs, closing costs, yield spread, etc. etc.
 
but hey not my problem. it is possible to get this car at invoice. it's simple logic you tell the dealer they are wasting their time if they don't give you the car at invoice. you can go back and fourth and play dealers against each other or they can cut their losses and cave in right a way. you will be surprised how well this works. the economy sucks and it is a buyers market. they are more than willing when pushed the right way to make little money. and by they way, they are still making money at invoice. don't let them tell you otherwise. they can't always hit a home run though, sometimes you gotta accept the intentional walk. you get on base, it's not fun, and it doesn't help out much. but at least you don't strike out if you are the dealer.
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Re: Money Factors [aramism] by djaerich
Oct 24, 2008 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: aramism (Oct 23, 2008 9:31 pm)

So I take it the advertised sign and drive deal for the S with automatic is not a great deal. It's 0 down / 369mo + tax, title, license if I'm not mistaken. If I wanted this particular vehicle, what would I need to negotiate to get it at or very close to invoice? Any help here? I want to get this car today. Thanks all!
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Re: Money Factors [djaerich] by aramism
Oct 25, 2008 (12:06 am)
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Replying to: djaerich (Oct 24, 2008 9:49 am)

i mean my best advice is to let them know off the bat you are not "joe consumer" and start talking detailed numbers. simply trying to negotiate payment/front fees is a telltale sign for them that they can play smoke and mirrors with the real numbers. you are better off doing a little research on how leasing works and understanding the scienece behind it this way you can spit out some lease jargon to let them know you are there to deal.
 
you would also be best advised to ask them for a detailed run through of the numbers. once you get the money factor, residual, the cap cost, how much they are selling the car to you for (even on a lease) you now have the "dna" of the lease deal they are offering and can shop this with multiple dealers. if you want the car that day after you go through the detailed numbers, balk at any price above invoice, or whatever level you wanna pay. just tell them that you are ready to to business right then are there but refuse to get the car for anything over invoice. you can throw in how eventually you can deal with multiple dealers and eventually get what you want anyway or the sales guy you are dealing with can just cut his time spent and give you a deal you are going to get in the future anyway now and save himself the time. the time he saves dealing with you, the shrewd consumer, is more time he has to try to deal with the non shrewd consumer. remember, unless it is like a brand new car that has all types of hype, invoice is pretty easy to get if you push the right buttons. they will tell you they make no money at invoice but there is still a small little cushion for them at invoice. not a ribeye steak but like a cracker. but hey, a cracker is better than nothing when you are hungry. and with the state of the economy, all car dealers are hungry if not starving.
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Re: Money Factors [djaerich] by aramism
Oct 25, 2008 (12:13 am)
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Replying to: djaerich (Oct 24, 2008 9:49 am)

oh and as far as the advertised deal, just ask them what the breakdown is for that as far as what that lease figure is based off of... that will tell you if it's a great deal. goto edmunds.com and research new cars, and price out the car you want with the options trim level etc. it tells you a pretty accurate idea of what the invoice is. use this as some sort of standard to base off what they tell you. FYI most advertised specials are based off MSRP pricing so you know you have room to wiggle.
 
i got my mother a jetta in april as part of the sign and drive when it was nothing up front. not even taxes.
 
i'm pretty sure the deal advertised was $249 with nothing due up front at all except like DMV fee. the advertised car was manual. she ended up getting automatic and the winter package for the same price. $249. i think i posted about it on this forum and someone else said i was full of shit but whatever.
#26 of 142
best deal. by bvdj84
Nov 03, 2008 (6:49 am)
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Do you think I can get under $400 a month for an SE Tiguan? With $0 down. My only issue is if I go with this model, is that it has cloth seats. Real bummer, but a real possibility. My mother already has a Jetta, which I really like. I would like this model or the Wolfsburg Edition Jetta!
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2009 SE by richneedsaleas
Nov 03, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Yes! It is possible.
The whole issue for me was the 36 month vs. 39 month periods
That extra 3 months flips you into a new year and really extends the lease term, probably at a time when you can't wait to get out of that 3 year old lease.
 
Here's what I was given as a quote for a 36 month which was 20.00/month
more than the 39 month version:
 
36 month 10k/mi year $395/month incl tax, NY Dealer
with 4motion, Roof & Navighation & Rearshades & Monster Mats Kit
$500 out the door, loyalty money applies
 
Yes, no leather in the SE is Ridiculous. The color choices are also pretty bad, what were they smoking when the chose that Blue???
 
Loaed SEL version as above should hit around $430-440 momnth I am guessing?
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Dec. Lease Rates and questions by k2chad
Dec 15, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: richneedsaleas (Nov 03, 2008 11:26 am)

Here's what I was quoted tonight and an SE 4Motion with roof and mats 39 mo, 12K/yr:
MSRP $31,484 Invoice $28934, dealer cash for December is $578 on the SE so real invoice is $28,356.
Selling $29,813
Residual 56%
Money Factor 0.00135
Acquisition Fee $575
Cap Red. $624.
Doc Fee: $218
Runner $40.00
RMV $86.
Monthly pre-tax is $375
 
I know acquisition is non-negotiable, but Doc fee seems high, and what the heck is a runner? I need to get the car to invoice before I will come close to leasing this car. We seem to have a lot of 4Motions in New England, so they're not scarce

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