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Sedans Lincoln MKS Article Comments - 2009 Lincoln MKS First Drive / Full Test
154 messages, Last post on Nov 17, 2008 at 2:21 PM
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First Drive: 2009 Lincoln MKS - First Impressions: The world's most completely equipped Taurus/Taurus X/Sable/Volvo/Flex, which turns out to be not such a bad thing. (more)
Full Test: 2009 Lincoln MKS AWD - Bottom Line: A luxury sedan for the Ford faithful, but all others would be advised to look elsewhere as there are far better luxury sedans for the price. (more)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Aug 29, 2008 2:08 pm) I do have to admit that I was surprised the E350 was so small - relatively speaking. I was sure it was significantly larger than the 535i, but it isn't. All I want is the MKS to be compared against other luxury vehicles the SAME SIZE. Period. It can't possibly win a comparo with smaller cars. |
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My hard copy issue of C & D arrived yesterday with the MKS road test. I pulled out an old 2000 copy of an LS road test for comparison. O-60 and quarter mile times were identical. The LS passing times were quicker and it went from 0-130 in 35.1 seconds while the MKS took 37.8 to reach 120. While similar at low speeds the old LS prior to the 2003 enhancements cleaned the MKS clock at higher speeds. The LS also better on the skidpad and stopped from 70 MPH in a shorter distance. The LS was quieter at idle, wide open throttle, and at 70 MPH cruising. Crusing noise levels and skidpad results are surface dependent so I don't know if that measurement is apples to apples since conditions have probably changed in the time between the tests. The point is that those of us who have an LS find it difficult to warm up to the driving dynamics and performance of the current MKS. I know they are aimed at different buyers but you would think that 9 years of progress would have given us all the luxury attributes of the MKS while at least matching the LS in some of these numbers. |
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Edmunds messed up with this review, they need to put down the reefer long enough to understand what car it is that they will be smoking it in. The MKS is a large FWD luxury car, not a small RWD sport sedan. You don't mention Mercedes, Cadillac, or BMW in your reviews. Comparing the MKS to a 350 is like comparing dance club to a lounge. Sure they both have music playing, but only one is big enough to dance in. That would be the MKS, a totally different class of car. As for the real negatives about the MKS, they barely touched on them. See these people are not drivers, they are journalists. The negatives are the terribly small rear window (think big blind spot and tough parking), the tiny trunk openning (mentioned thankfully), and the no-name sound system. So its THX certified, big deal. Give us a BOSE system that is THX certified and now your talking. I didn't like the small head room with the sun roof option either, and the lack of wood trim. Even the steering wheel has wood trim that is half-baked, literrally only on the top part of the top rim. Its just not enough. The MKS has lots of features though, and is a very good looking car. It is taller than most other cars on the road and to me that says quality and luxury. Its nice to have a high seating position, and easier entry / exit. To me this is pretty cool and makes Ford/Lincoln unique. This car has good and bad things going for it, but this Edmunds review is trash. |
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Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Aug 30, 2008 9:37 am) |
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Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Aug 30, 2008 9:37 am) I suspect in the end this is a car not a lot of people are looking for. Thus Lincoln needs to keep pursuing that MKR too. Especially now that they have dumbed down the MKT into a long station wagon. Gotta keep the stuff coming. No other brand that intends to stay around is sitting still.
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Aug 30, 2008 7:50 pm) Its cool to be in a regular sedan that's taller than other sedans around it. You get a substantial feeling, I know because I test drove an MKS. I think Lincoln has something very close to a hit on its hands, but they need to put the right features in this car. They need to give it class that is more than skin deep.
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Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Sep 02, 2008 8:38 pm) There isn't a lot of buzz about this car, and that is too bad. One thing that could help is if Ford would start releasing new and upgraded engines (and more engine choice) when the car or truck is released. Speaking of tall sedans... People graviitated first to minivans, which fell out of favor when SUVs grew in popularity (along with the phenomenal growth of pickup trucks), and then the movement toward CUVs. All tall, most considered personal transportation (cars), not trucks or tow vehicles or off-roaders. So it is amusing to me that people still resist taller sedans. |
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Anyone expecting the LS, need not apply. I think that was obvious from the get, and when you look back at any of the press b4 this vehicle was released I don't think anyone over in Dearborn alluded to that fact. And I'm sorry, but not everyone wants something that they plan on going canyon carving with. I don't know how many times I've heard folks complain about how stiffly sprung and uncomfortable certain cars are, that are designed with high(er) performance in mind. To that end, look at how many folks go out and hunt for the obligatory 3 or 5 Series with a Sport Package (very few). And since we are talking competition, performance and price: - A FWD/CVT 255 HP A6 is sporting? Of course it doesn't have any torque steer, it's probably as slow as the Lincoln is (if not slower) complete with an engine that barely motivates the smaller A4, thus working even harder (and louder) to do so - The MB E350 is not only pricey, but it is just as soft. The Sport Package does away with some of it, but I've found these cars to be a tad on the floaty side with numb steering. Nevermind the fact that the engine isn't all that powerful yet the starting price is at a very lofty 50K - A 528i is yet another pricey exercise that offers little in the movement department under hood. Costs 45K, comes complete with fake leather. You get the picture. The enjoyment only gets better with the AWD version - The only vehicles that I see  the MKS' price point that offer a lot of money for the buck is the M35S (something sporty), the GS350 (not so sporty) and the Genesis (middle of the road) So in a nutshell, Edmunds along with some folks around here, can't wrap their heads around this vehicle because it is from Lincoln. What makes it worse for some of you is the fact that it is based off a Taurus, which in itself is based off a VOLVO. You don't hear much about that, do ya? What this vehicle truly needs is an Ecoboost'd version with a true Sports Package. Heck why not offer one on the non-turbo'd version as well. |
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Replying to: gdmstrb (Sep 03, 2008 8:28 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Sep 03, 2008 9:09 am)
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